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[Gopher]

Amazing and laughable. The pattern you and your sources present, coming from the British far-left press, the Russian govt, others, and you have so self-righteously convinced yourself that you are in direct possession of "the truth about what is really going on in Haiti?"

And that, further, those of us who may not join you in so harshly attacking "the American role in Haiti" must therefore be "waving the flag" and "keeping the faith?" And this is Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton's work and style you are attacking so unrelentingly! One would think that, based on your hostility, W. Bush and the Dark Prince himself still occupied the Oval Office. Truly amazing. Yet I predicted this; I even called it right: the first Obama administration intervention abroad would reveal that people like you had only used W. Bush and his foreign relations as a pretext to vent antiAmericanism.

So, then, according to you, I may join you and self-righteously condemn American evils or mindlessly praise its greatness as a robotic patriot? Those are my only two options, are they?

Your post here, especially its particular politicization and tone, only reaffirms all that I find objectionable and, frankly, sickening, about leftists. It also reaffirms leftists' utter unimaginativeness.

Most of you mimic V. Lenin. No more, no less. One can read his book on the banks and corporations and take in all there is to take in from you people. And anything "new" you may write is not only superfluous and unnecessary -- but entirely predictable and unsurprising.

[rocket_scientist]

The Guardian says The US caused the earthquake to control Haiti s newly discovered oil reserves and to steal Haitian children

Im sorry for the Hatians loss, I really did not want to hear this

[Fox]

[conrad2]

Its been reported in the Venezuelan media that the US has an earthquake machine and deliberatley caused the quake in Haiti, and that Venezuelans should be ever vigilant because they are next. No joke.

[rocket_scientist]

Im glad the ELF technology worked and that Sengelese guy sure did earn his money After the Negroes leave all thqt waterfront property can be bought for a very few dollars and with them gone the value will go way way up

The airport thing we pulled off worked like a charm we bought lawyers in disguised as aid workers just to get a jump on real estate title transfer - blocking out competitors really helps

[Gopher]

[Gopher]

As we open more Haitian ports and continue rebuilding Haitian infrastructure, more foreign aid can get to Haitians faster. But, as this report indicates, Haitian obstacles, including a communications and transportation system that, even in its best condition, never likely saw such volumes of imports as this, remain.

[Fox]

[ytuque]

If the French are unhappy with the US taking the lead, they should offer to take over. After all, they created Haiti.

The world would be a better place today if the Spanish, Portugese, and French had not been colonial powers.

[ersatzredux]

Gopher et al,

You're just not getting it, are you?

Let me take another tact with this. When have you ever heard of security being the paramount concern of rescuers after an earthquake or hurricane? Just how often do the victims of these catastrophes attack their saviours while in the process of being saved? Really? As for the danger of looting, wouldn't it make a lot more sense for the international community to guarantee losses to the shopkeepers and tell people who dying from thirst and starvation to help themselves to whatever they can salvage.Why is it such a big deal that troops to combat it take precedence over water, food, and medical help?

What is wrong with you people?

[Fox]

[Kuros]

[Gopher]

Katrina and other recent natural disasters are not analogous to this situation.

The Haitian govt no longer functions and its entire infrastructure has collapsed.

Somalia would be a better example, and especially after hearing Colin Powell's interview on BBC (something that Erstaz and others here are not doing: they simply see the United States as the enemy in every situation, in every context, and never bother themselves to listen to what officials or their counselors are saying, and how they describe the problem they see, or how they intend to approach it), I feel fairly certain that this is exactly how the Obama administration is approaching the problem. UN and other aid agencies initially approached the Somali problem as Ersatz and others here want for Haiti: simply dispatch aid groups, doctors, and all supplies available directly into the grassroots population. But strongmen arose, seized the aid, etc., and eventually, the H.W. Bush administration had to dispatch the Marines to (1) restore security and order, so that (2) the international community could aid Somalis effectively.

So, again, this is not Katrina. In Katrina, the LA govt functioned and, after a delay, so did the fed govt -- which also dispatched armed forces, including an Army Airborne division, to reaffirm security and order.

Dismissing security and order, not only in places such as Somalia and Haiti, but also New Orleans, is an asinine proposition.

I think Ersatz knows this. His position merely seizes on the most likely mechanism to create leverage to attack the United States propagandistically. Again, very predictable, given far-leftist politics and intentions in world affairs. I find it surprising that Hugo Chavez et al. have not begun posturing yet.

This has become a ridiculous discussion.

[bacasper]

Is the "ridiculous" Green Party at it again?

[ytuque]