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saint_moi

Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: That little place where I'm meant to be.
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:14 am Post subject: Have any of you bought your own leases or property here? |
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Well, I'm intending to buy a year lease on an apartment. It's a new modern building and as stylish as Rodney Dangerfield!
I know, or think, Mr Pink atleast has bought into his own apt. here, question is: has anyone else here? If so, is there any advice you could shoot my way. Any do's and don't's?
First of all, I've been told that it's Quite a risk buying a lease as many entrepeneur wannabes try their hand at real estate and go bankrupt and you could loose your $$ and not get it back later!!
Buying a lease on a Korean apt. for dummies... |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:28 am Post subject: |
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The longest bridge in Korea will join Busan with Geoje Island, about a 45-minute drive, when its already early construction efforts are finished in five to seven years. That will mean a HUGE increase in traffic and tourism for the incredibly underappreciated "Island of Fantasy". And with the bullet train from Seoul to Busan, that makes the second largest island in Korea more accessible than ever.
I have my eye on some land in nearby rural coastal island valleys, close to relatively large communities (50,000 up to 200,000 people). Industry on the island is strong, with world-class shipbuilding ports by Samsung and Daewoo and agricultural products as exotic as lemons and pineapples.
Before I seriously consider the possibility of buying some property I want to hear about several other foreigners' experiences in that regard.
How are foreigners treated? What extra costs or delays, if any, should one expect? |
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Gord

Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:53 am Post subject: |
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VanIslander wrote: |
Before I seriously consider the possibility of buying some property I want to hear about several other foreigners' experiences in that regard.
How are foreigners treated? What extra costs or delays, if any, should one expect? |
From what I have read, foreigners are prohibited from owning land outside of business use. And then any land used for business purposes must be surrendered to the government when no longer in use. |
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saint_moi

Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: That little place where I'm meant to be.
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:21 am Post subject: |
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In any democratic free market country you can buy just what u like if u have the $ |
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sadsac
Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: Gwangwang
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:18 am Post subject: |
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VanIslander wrote:
Before I seriously consider the possibility of buying some property I want to hear about several other foreigners' experiences in that regard.
How are foreigners treated? What extra costs or delays, if any, should one expect?
Gord is correct in his statement, foreigners may purchase apartments but not undeveloped land, unless for business use and then only in the international economic zones. If you are going to purchase undeveloped property for the purpose of building a house you may, but not for any other reason. Foreign ownership of land in Korea, aside from the US military is miniscule.  |
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saint_moi

Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: That little place where I'm meant to be.
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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So let me pop the question again...
Have any of you bought your own leases on your apartments?
If so, do u have any advice? Could you share some of your experience please. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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saint_moi wrote: |
So let me pop the question again...
Have any of you bought your own leases on your apartments?
If so, do u have any advice? Could you share some of your experience please. |
Not sure what you mean by 'buying a lease.'
Do you mean putting down a deposit (aka key money aka chunsae) of your own money? Its common practice but with interest rates low chunsae is high these days or landlords are asking for wolsae (monthly rent) in addition. Thats my current set up -- I paid the deposit, my work covers the rent.
Standard lease is for 2 years, not one. You can leave earlier but finding a replacement tenant is your responsibility.
Unless he's a personal friend, a bit of research on the owner is in order. A visit to the cityhall records dept (with a Korean friend if youre Korean isnt up to it) will quickly determine if there are any back taxes owing or liens against the owner or the property. That would spell risk on your part. |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Gord wrote: |
VanIslander wrote: |
Before I seriously consider the possibility of buying some property I want to hear about several other foreigners' experiences in that regard.
How are foreigners treated? What extra costs or delays, if any, should one expect? |
From what I have read, foreigners are prohibited from owning land outside of business use. And then any land used for business purposes must be surrendered to the government when no longer in use. |
All such restrictions have been removed in the past few years. If you like, I can dig up the relevant laws. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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DIG,
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DIG! |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Q & A about Laws
Question 1.
When can foreigners acquire land like Koreans?
Answer 1.
◆ The "Foreigner's land acquisition Act" was amended at a plenary session of the National Assembly on May 15, 1998.
◆ The Amended Act came into force on July 26, 1998.
- So foreigners can acquire land in Korea as same rights and obligations with Koreans.
Question 2.
What is the definition of a foreigner in the foreigner's Land Acquisition Act ?
Answer 2.
◆ A foreigner Prescribed in the Foreigner's Land Acquisition Act is classified into two; a foreign individual and a foreign corporation.
◆ A foreign individual means who does not has a Korean nationality.
- Consequently, the Foreigner's Land Acquisition Act is not applied to overseas Koreans who have a Korean nationality and a permanent residence in the foreign country
◆ Foreign corporations means that
- a corporation established according to the foreign law.
- a foreign corporation established according to the Korean law which has more than half of capital stock or voting rights.
Question 3.
Can a foreigner acquire land within Korean territory without any restriction according to amended "Foreigner's Land Acquisition Act"?
Answer 3.
◆ The main purpose of the amended Foreigner's Land Acquisition Act is to abrogate the discriminative requirements of the former Foreigner's Land Acquisition Act which limitedly allowed foreigners to acquire land unlike Koreans.
- As a result, foreigners are allowed to acquire land in Korean territory, as the same rights and obligations with Koreans.
- So, when foreigner's acquire land, they are not exempted from the restrictions on land and taxes which are applied to Koreans.
Question 4.
What are the restrictions on land acquisition, use, and development in Korean territory ?
Answer 4.
◆ Restrictions related to land within Korean territory are largely classified into three : restrictions on land acquisition, use, and development.
◆ First, restrictions on land acquisition are;
- foreigners are not allowed to hold over 3ha farmland according to the "Farmland Act"
- ln addition, they must obtain a certificate of farmland acquisition.
◆ Second, restrictions on land use are;
- The national land is classified into five use zones according to the "National Land Use Plan" , and each use zone is subject to restriction on a fixed action
- Land designated as an use zone is subject to restriction depending on individual action, according to the "Town Planning Act" and the "Architect Act".
◆ Finally, restrictions on land development are
- When 28 projects, such as; new town development, tourist resort development projects, and etc., are carried out, development charges equivalent to 50% of development benefit are assessed according to the "Development Gains Recapturing Act"
- When farmland or mountainous zone is developed for the another purposes changes on changing use are assessed according to the "Farmland Act" or the "Forest Law"
◆ However, these restrictions will be relaxed or abrogated by the "Real Estate-invigorating Policy" which is promoted by the government.
- The national land use plan will change from restriction-centered one to flexible land supply-centered one.
- All development charges will be exempted until December 1999. Development charges rate will be dramatically cut down from 50% to 25% after the year 2000.
◆ In addition, restrictions according to the Farmland Act or the Forest Law will be drastically relaxed by deliberation with the government agencies such as the "Restriction Reformation Commission" and etc
◆ Consequently, restrictions related to land within Korean territory were drastically relaxed at the second half of year 1998.
Landlovers Development & Consulting Co. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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In response to the OP, Wifey and I dropped 10 million won on an apartment. The lease is for two years. We're also paying 450,000 won per month. It's pretty decent (doesn't compare to my 80 pyeong penthouse apt. in Apkujeong, though ), but I'm itching for the lease to expire so that we can find something bigger and more modern (that's my biggest complaint with the place; it's too drab. When we were originally looking, there was a very modern place -- same size, same key-deposit, and only 50,000 won extra per month for rent -- that we turned down because the place we're at now is nestled right next to a mountain. The moral: mountains aren't really all that special). But I digress...
From what I've heard, most building owners prefer the weolsae method these days.
And definitely, DEFINITELY have a Korean friend/lover look deeply into the building owner's AND the real estate agency's histories.
Sparkles*_* |
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saint_moi

Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: That little place where I'm meant to be.
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:26 am Post subject: |
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Well, I'm doing the Cheonsae option. Im forking 20mil for a modern, but measly 10pyeong, apt close to my school downtown.
The difference is i don't pay squat after that cept for utilities (water/elec/cable fee).
Schwa and Sparkles u both talked about paying rent thereafter... I'm not payin any rent after that for a year. Maybe things work differently in smaller cities. Maybe. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:20 am Post subject: |
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I expect the system is much the same throughout the country, but of course space is cheaper in smaller cities. I had to househunt with a work-given budget of 25 mil cheonsae or 300k a month & I couldnt find a cheonsae place I liked. But 10 mil down (of mine) got me a pretty sweet 30-pyeong space & the job picks up the other 300k/mo. Whatever works. Enjoy your new pad. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:12 am Post subject: |
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saint_moi wrote: |
Well, I'm doing the Cheonsae option. Im forking 20mil for a modern, but measly 10pyeong, apt close to my school downtown.
The difference is i don't pay squat after that cept for utilities (water/elec/cable fee).
Schwa and Sparkles u both talked about paying rent thereafter... I'm not payin any rent after that for a year. Maybe things work differently in smaller cities. Maybe. |
10 pyeong? Really? That's tough. It's never the city (I live in Bundang, the place from which all expensive things must surely come) so much as it is the area. I know families that pay key money upwards of 100 million won, and then their neighbors at an apartment maul adjacent pay only a fraction of that.
My advice would be that while looking for a place, make a Commando, exhaustive search. Wifey and I looked at some really, really god-awful places before finding this one (he says as he itches to escape), and they were all for the same key deposit and rent. The truth is, if you want to find a good place and don't have a fortune in the bank, you're likely gonna have to pay rent.
Edit: fixt my math error. Numbers make my head hurt hard!
Sparkles*_*
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coolsage
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:40 am Post subject: |
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schwa wrote: |
I expect the system is much the same throughout the country, but of course space is cheaper in smaller cities. I had to househunt with a work-given budget of 25 mil cheonsae or 300k a month & I couldnt find a cheonsae place I liked. But 10 mil down (of mine) got me a pretty sweet 30-pyeong space & the job picks up the other 300k/mo. Whatever works. Enjoy your new pad. |
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Does that still come with the maid, Schwa, and the felines? |
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