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What is the Future of Public Schools in Korea?

 
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leopard7



Joined: 13 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: What is the Future of Public Schools in Korea? Reply with quote

One of my friends, an American, who has taught in Korean Public Schools for 5 years told me the Ministry of Education told his Korean wife that they will phase out all NETs by 2012. My Korean wife also called our local Ministry of Education, and they told my wife there is talk of phasing out all NETs, but she didn't think it would be as early as 2012. Does anyone else know anything else pertaining to this subject?
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oldtactics



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, March is going to be EPIK's biggest hiring season thus far, with almost 800 new teachers placed in addition to the people who are already here. That's about 200 more than they hired in September, 400 more than in 2008. I don't know whether there's truth to the rumour about NETs being phased out, but I can tell you that EPIK is getting bigger by leaps and bounds, not smaller.
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frankly speaking



Joined: 23 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think their original goal was to phase out by 2020, not 2012. Think about it this way these programs have only been full on for a bout 4 years. Do you really think that they would spend this much money for a short 10 year program. Not much results in 10 short years.
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DosEquisXX



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wishful thinking if you ask me.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a story told by a public school official:

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While visiting a local elementary school, the school superintendent was told how the students had spent several days cleaning and preparing for the inspection.

In science class, one of the boys told how he had cleaned the globe.
"Do you like science?"
"Yes," said the boy.
"Do you know why Earth is tilted like that?"
"I didn't do it!" cried the boy. "The globe was already tilted when I cleaned it."

So, the superintendent talked with the boy's science teacher.
"You know, this is a problem. The boy can't tell us why this globe is tilted."
"But, it was that way when we got it! It came that way!" cried the science teacher.

Being concerned at this, the superintendent turned to the principal.
"Now this is really bad. If science students and even the science teacher cannot explain why the globe is tilted, we have to do something."

"But, sir," the principal exclaimed. "There's nothing we can do. They're made in Korea. They're all that way."



This, according to the Korean official, is what is wrong with public schools. And this is why we need hogwans.
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Konglishman



Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
Here is a story told by a public school official:

Quote:
While visiting a local elementary school, the school superintendent was told how the students had spent several days cleaning and preparing for the inspection.

In science class, one of the boys told how he had cleaned the globe.
"Do you like science?"
"Yes," said the boy.
"Do you know why Earth is tilted like that?"
"I didn't do it!" cried the boy. "The globe was already tilted when I cleaned it."

So, the superintendent talked with the boy's science teacher.
"You know, this is a problem. The boy can't tell us why this globe is tilted."
"But, it was that way when we got it! It came that way!" cried the science teacher.

Being concerned at this, the superintendent turned to the principal.
"Now this is really bad. If science students and even the science teacher cannot explain why the globe is tilted, we have to do something."

"But, sir," the principal exclaimed. "There's nothing we can do. They're made in Korea. They're all that way."



This, according to the Korean official, is what is wrong with public schools. And this is why we need hogwans.


Actually, asking why the Earth is tilted, is the wrong question to ask. The right question would be what are some things that happen due to the Earth being tilted.
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Goon-Yang



Joined: 28 May 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asking why the earth is tilted is like asking why water is wet. In science some thing can be asked "why is the sky blue"? There is a valid scientific reason for that. Some things just are.

Other than that it was a great joke Rolling Eyes
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a story told by a public school official:

Quote:

While visiting a local elementary school, the school superintendent was told how the students had spent several days cleaning and preparing for the inspection.

In science class, one of the boys told how he had cleaned the globe of Earth.
"Do you like science?"
"Yes," said the boy.
"Do you know why the globe is tilted like that?"
"I didn't do it!" cried the boy. "The globe was already tilted when I cleaned it."

So, the superintendent talked with the boy's science teacher.
"You know, this is a problem. The boy can't tell us why this globe is tilted."
"But, it was that way when we got it! It came that way!" cried the science teacher.

Being concerned at this, the superintendent turned to the principal.
"Now this is really bad. If science students and even the science teacher cannot explain why the globe is tilted, we have to do something."

"But, sir," the principal exclaimed. "There's nothing we can do. They're made in Korea. They're all that way."



Sorry, should have been more careful in editing this story. The original translation kept repeating "globe of Earth."
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leopard7



Joined: 13 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:23 pm    Post subject: Thanks for the replies Reply with quote

Glad to hear back from you all. I've only been teaching in Korea for 16 months, hence I don't know everything about public schools yet. When I made this post, I was not giving my opinion--I was only saying what others who have been here far longer told me (including my Korean wife). I taught in Japan and Germany, and one thing I can tell you is that there are boom and bust cycles with all business, and, yes, education is a business of sorts. So I hope it all contiues on for a long time, for we are enjoying our time and teaching in Korea!
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
"But, sir," the principal exclaimed. "There's nothing we can do. They're made in Korea. They're all that way."


If true, that story just highlights the Korean obsession with presentation and appearance. The immediate kneejerk answer is from a fear that the inspector is not pleased and an instantaneous absolving of oneself from blame.

...its a good parable in this case.
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leopard7



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply to nautilus: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm still learning about Korean culture, and even with my wife's help it's still difficult, but then so were the Japanese, although I found the Japanese much more polite and easier to talk with, providing you initiate the conversation. I know there are always rumors in any profession that this or that will come to an end, soon, but many times they are just that: rumors.
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rickpidero



Joined: 03 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: new types of teachers Reply with quote

I teach high school in Incheon, my co-teacher is applying for a new English teaching job this year. I guess it's supposed to be a new hybrid position where Korean-born teachers teach English while actually using English. These classes use almost no Korean, unlike the classes we've all seen. I've attended an open session with these new teachers and it seems similar to any NET class, except the teacher can guide the students along with a Korean phrase/word here and there. These teachers also travel around to different schools. Has anyone else heard about this type of teachers in their cities?
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bcjinseoul



Joined: 13 Jan 2010
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the middle of 2008 when I was starting a GEPIK high school contract, I was told foreigners would be phased out in 2010. I've heard people hear say GEPIK will phase out foreigners starting in 2011.

Somehow, I'm sure we have a good 5-10 years left...
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