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canopykid
Joined: 08 Jan 2010
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 Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:49 pm Post subject: Teach then Military? |
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Hello:
I would like to hear what people have to say about a tentative plan that I have about teaching in SK for 1-2 years then joining the US Air Force as an officer.
Pros/cons and previous knowledge about this would be helpful, thanks. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Con: you'd be joining an organization of professional killers who sacrifice a reasonably large part of their autonomy when they sign on.
Pro: good health care? |
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Alabama Rattail
Joined: 04 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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I know that there are positions that you can't have in the Air Force if you have ever been in the peace corps. I think that teaching in South Korea or living abroad in general might actually hurt you if you want to pursue a career in the armed forces afterwards.
Teaching in another country proves that you are independent, open minded, and accepting of other cultures...all of which are negative traits in the eyes of the military. |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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I was going to do the same before I was medically unfit to do so....
After being on base with friends and meeting more soldiers, I'd be a bit aprehensive....It seems quite more restrictive a lifestyle and if you thought dealing with high school students was annoying, guess who'll you'll be commanding all day and in some cases at night....
Also, I think it would suck if they assumed your experience made you a perfect fit to be placed back in South korea...soldiers have many more restrictions on where they can go in Korea...other than my soldier friends, I almost never see them wandering around seoul unless it's Itaewon. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| I had the temptation, but the thought of being fragged was a bit overwhelming |
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sarbonn
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| Alabama Rattail wrote: |
I know that there are positions that you can't have in the Air Force if you have ever been in the peace corps. I think that teaching in South Korea or living abroad in general might actually hurt you if you want to pursue a career in the armed forces afterwards.
Teaching in another country proves that you are independent, open minded, and accepting of other cultures...all of which are negative traits in the eyes of the military. |
Teaching in South Korea won't be a problem for joining the Air Force as an officer, as long as you didn't get into any trouble in Korea. The thing about the Peace Corps is because of clearances. The United States government and the Peace Corps have an understanding that was designed back in the Cold War. The Peace Corps won't hire anyone who worked in intelligence for the government for a certain period of time, and the government won't allow anyone into intelligence who worked for the Peace Corps. The reason for this was to protect the Peace Corps from the perception that it is a tool of the CIA, which was a claim that was being made by other countries (and at one point, for good reason). So, now, when you are being questioned for a clearance, they ask you if you have ever been a member of the Peace Corps.
When I first joined the military I used to think the Peace Corps must have been some kind of Communist organization because it was asked in almost the same breath of "Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?" Turns out, the Peace Corps isn't hated by the military; it's being protected by the military.
Anyway, just some clarification. |
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Radius
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| dude you can forget jumping right into the ASAF. and as an OFFICER? forget it! youll be waiting a year to JUST enlist. it is so competitive and i dont think the airforce are doing waivers for anything. the army is even being selective now. its all because of the recession. but yea, just focus on teaching in Korea and forGET joining the force as an Officer. . . being an Officer is just way too competitve, and you probably wont make it. i hate being negative, but in all actuality, i think im being more honest than anything. gl in your endeavors |
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SeoulMan99
Joined: 02 Aug 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Alabama Rattail wrote: |
I know that there are positions that you can't have in the Air Force if you have ever been in the peace corps. I think that teaching in South Korea or living abroad in general might actually hurt you if you want to pursue a career in the armed forces afterwards.
Teaching in another country proves that you are independent, open minded, and accepting of other cultures...all of which are negative traits in the eyes of the military. |
You're thinking of how you cannot be in the Peace Corps if you were in an organization such as the CIA or any other intelligence role. This is to protect the safety of the volunteers and to ensure the trust of the host country.
OP, I previously lived abroad (Russia, Mexico, Guatemala) and I was picked up on a Special Ops contract in the US Navy with no problem whatsoever. Most of the people answering you here probably have little to no knowledge of what they are speaking about. Air Force and Navy OCS are extremely competitive, and it will take you a while to ship out (not enlist, since you're not enlisting you're going into the officer corp). I have a very good friend who is completing The Basic School (TBS) for the Marines right now, and he wasn't an exceptional candidate by any means. You can certainly make it into Marine OCS if you are very physically fit and have a decent gpa from undergrad. Get your 3 mile run to around 22-23 minutes, 12 pull-ups and max sit-ups and you'd be picked up I bet. They even guarantee a flight contract if you meet the physical standards and you pass the pre-flight exam I believe. You could probably definitely get picked up by the Army, though I don't know if you'd want that. I'd go for the Marines or the Air Force if I were you. If you want to fly then your best bet is the Marines.
From first-hand experience the life of an officer is the way to go. Do not enlist. You'll do 4 years of active duty and after that you'll have one hell of a resume and you'll be able to get some very good government jobs, or if you want to go into the private sector companies LOVE military officers because of their leadership and management abilities. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Alabama Rattail wrote: |
| Teaching in another country proves that you are independent, open minded, and accepting of other cultures...all of which are negative traits in the eyes of the military. |
Your appraisal of the US military, like the poster Fox above, isn't even close to the truth. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| Alabama Rattail wrote: |
| Teaching in another country proves that you are independent, open minded, and accepting of other cultures...all of which are negative traits in the eyes of the military. |
Your appraisal of the US military, like the poster Fox above, isn't even close to the truth. |
So are you insisting soldiers don't kill on government command, or are you insisting that soldiers retain 100% of the legal autonomy they had as civilians? |
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kimchi_pizza
Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"
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| Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
| Alabama Rattail wrote: |
| Teaching in another country proves that you are independent, open minded, and accepting of other cultures...all of which are negative traits in the eyes of the military. |
Your appraisal of the US military, like the poster Fox above, isn't even close to the truth. |
So are you insisting soldiers don't kill on government command |
No, they don't necessarily.
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| or are you insisting that soldiers retain 100% of the legal autonomy they had as civilians? |
Yes, the do to some degree. Not legally perhaps, but they (some soldiers) try to retain some autonomy. I know I did though I got busted a few times.
But back on thread track.....
Military then teaching is the best course either professionally or otherwise...
But to teach first as a benefit to acceptance in military life as officer or enlisted? Not. a. chance. A degree in any field will be a benefit but specifically a degree or experience in teaching? no.
I've led soldiers in a war zone and I've led students in a class. I can apply some things I've learned in the military to a class of youngsters, but I don't think I could apply what I learned teachin youngsters to soldiers in a war zone if that makes any sense. |
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