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[Kimbop]

I thought about adding this to Mises' Haiti thread, but this is a seperate debate.

http://www.flipcollective.com/2010/01/26/if-you-rebuild-it-they-will-come-by-paul-shirley/

[catman]

Too bad he doesn't know (or ignores) why Hati is so poor in the first place. The truth would probably hurt his ideological outlook.

[pkang0202]

I predict a year from now, no one is going to care about Haiti. I'm willing to bet a year from now, those same celebrities that put on the Save Haiti Now telethon wouldn't do it again next year.

[Kimbop]

[NovaKart]

It's not the Haitian people's fault what happened any more than Americans are responsible for their government or any other country. Should the average Haitian be denied aid because of the mistakes their leaders have made?

I suppose Paul Shirley is worried the funds will be misused and I understand that concern. But I imagine at least some of it will go to the people. Perhaps he should research a way to donate more responsibly instead of condemning donations period and saying it's the Haitian people's fault.

I do agree that it's tiresome to see the usual celebrities rushing out to do a concert, doing their part by giving the gift of song. Still, I think people should put more scrutiny on how the money is handled and not just abandon donations.

I don't think he should be fired over this or anything else he says however. Too many people get fired over a single foot-in-mouth statement.

[mises]

Why Haiti is poor is a difficult topic. A key problem is the rate of population growth. Haiti needs a one-child policy.

[Ya-ta Boy]

It looks like Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer has found some allies:

"My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals. You know why? Because they breed! You're facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply, they will reproduce."

[catman]

[Kimbop]

So what is "the truth"? Enlighten me please.

[ELGORDO]

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/crs/rl34299.pdf

That link basically gives the real reason no on should give a single cent to Haiti.

It�s a report on just how much money the US has given them. During the 90�s, we gave them roughly $266,000 per person. The average family size in Haiti is 7. That comes out to a $186,200 a year income per year, for 10 years (note this does not count all the aid sent to Haiti since then), per family.

This is plenty of money for the average Haitian to own their own house, a couple of cars and live an opulent existence in any 1st world nation. In a third world nation like Haiti, it equates to being set for life��every Haitian�.set for life.

Yet, the average Haitian lives a desperate, squalid existence, where their prime recreational activities are doing drugs and killing each other.

[NovaKart]

I totally agree that pouring in massive amounts of aid and thinking that's going to solve everything is a really flawed idea. The problem I have with the article is that he blames the average Haitian person for not preventing this problem when there's little they can do about it.

He asks why they build ramshackle houses in shantytowns that are so vulnerable to earthquakes. Does he think there are housing projects available for them and they're making makeshift shacks just because they're lazy?

[Fox]

[NovaKart]

People are responsbile for electing someone into office. What those people do while in office is not really under our control. We can protest it but that doesn't mean it's going to change anything.

In a place like Haiti which doesn't have a stable democracy and many people are more concerned with survival than with protesting government policies it's even more difficult.

[Fox]

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