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Does Korea wish it was America?
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Gibberish



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:22 am    Post subject: Does Korea wish it was America? Reply with quote

I'm just throwing this out there, because I was thinking about it, and I discussed it with some Koreans who offered me some insight. Essentially, it really seems that with the prevalence of English, western-style everything, and the modernization of Korea in the late 20th century, Koreans wish they were living in the U.S. I know that Koreans have national pride unlike anyone else, but I really have it in my head now that Koreans really wish that they could switch places with Americana. If they had their way, they'd be over in the USA, and we'd be stuck on their little peninsula.

I was thinking that maybe they wish that everyone in the world was Korean and spoke Korean, but then I thought that Koreans are generally too selective and egotistical about being Korean for them to imagine everyone being the same.

Anyone else get this feeling sometimes? It's like the United States stole it from them, or put them into exile or something.
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Css



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh americans Laughing Laughing Laughing

yes, the rest of the world wants to be you...or move to your country and live there..
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think this generalization to be true. If anything, they would rather be one complete Korean country with a big wall facing the outside world, replete with artillery, tank traps, and barbed wire surrounding. Well, they'd have a few heavily armed ports for all their exports and fishing boats, though.
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DorkothyParker



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.
For one: Western does not equal American.
Two: English is just seen as pragmatic as it is spoken by several very powerful nations. not just America. Though, if Firefly has taught us anything it's that Chinese is where it's going to be at.
Three: modernization is what happens with the passing of time.
Four: communication and transportation technologies have made the world smaller; there has been a great overlap of cultures in many areas. I think it's a process of exchange more than anything else. I don't wish to made any implications regarding the value of what is exchanged.

Anyhow, I might be wrong as I am not having extensive conversations with Koreans about whether or not they wish they were more like me.
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Sadebugo1



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they just want to be superior and the US is seen as the main competition. And, although it may not be fair, many people in the world do see the US as the ideal in terms of its culture, power, what have you.

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placeshifter



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Yes, Korea too would like ghettos filled with gangs, drugs, and impoverished groups; its people transformed into obscenely obese and fast food loving lardasses; and bring about the near collapse of the world financial system through greed and fraud. Laughing Laughing

Koreans just want to be RICH. That's it.
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djsmnc wrote:
I don't think this generalization to be true. If anything, they would rather be one complete Korean country with a big wall facing the outside world, replete with artillery, tank traps, and barbed wire surrounding. Well, they'd have a few heavily armed ports for all their exports and fishing boats, though.


Sounds like they've accomplished it already...
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anjinsan



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the question is way too broad.
Overall, I'd say "nope"

I do believe that upper-class Koreans do tend to boast about
connections they may have to the US (university, children with dual citizenship, relatives in the US, family members studying in the US, US tastes in shopping, frequent vacations to see all these relatives in the US).
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flakfizer



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edited. I found the article and it said 17 percent had close family living abroad, not just in the US.

Last edited by flakfizer on Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:20 pm; edited 1 time in total
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joltaxt



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Css wrote:
oh americans Laughing Laughing Laughing

yes, the rest of the world wants to be you...or move to your country and live there..


Well to be fair more countries follow Americana than any other country in the world.
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Sector7G



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

placeshifter wrote:
Laughing Laughing Yes, Korea too would like ghettos filled with gangs, drugs, and impoverished groups; its people transformed into obscenely obese and fast food loving lardasses; and bring about the near collapse of the world financial system through greed and fraud. Laughing Laughing

Koreans just want to be RICH. That's it.


This! There is also a level of small minded thinking that rivals anything Korea puts out.

If Korea does wish it was America it should be more careful about what it wishes for.
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Oliver



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the US is looked to as a model. Dunno?
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Css



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joltaxt wrote:
Css wrote:
oh americans Laughing Laughing Laughing

yes, the rest of the world wants to be you...or move to your country and live there..


Well to be fair more countries follow Americana than any other country in the world.


Liking american music and tv does not mean one wants to be american.
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definitely maybe



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Css wrote:
oh americans Laughing Laughing Laughing

yes, the rest of the world wants to be you...or move to your country and live there..


Where did the OP say he was from the US or thought that the greatness of the US was the cause of his musings? To be fair, Korea does place an unbalanced amount of emphasis on the US. Let's not forget that it's still not uncommon for a kid to say 미국 사람이 있다 despite the strong chance that the recipient is not American.

I completely agree that while Korea is envious of the US, not to mention Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and perhaps the entirety of western Europe, that they generally do not wish they were American. However, I don't think the OP's post warrants a call to arms for anti-Americans. The question didn't strike me as arrogant or malicious.
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Old Gil



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans want to be #1, and to be seen and recognized as #1.
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