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i
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 Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:11 am Post subject: The worst US president |
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Maybe this has been on here. Maybe a 100 times, I don't know. But who is the worst. I am sure many will say Bush, Obama, Reagan, but for those students of history...what do you think?
For me, it's JFK. The bullet saved his reputation. He would probably been impeached for his affairs, especially those with Communist spys and mafia chick plants had he not been killed. Second place I'd give to FDR for similar actions and for his blind loyalty to Stalin to the point of backstabbing Churchill.
Controversial? Yea. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:55 am Post subject: |
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There seems to be a puritanical streak influencing the OP's choices rather than an assessment of the men's conduct of the affairs of state. This is the second time in a couple of days that backstabbing thing has come up; is it coming from the History Channel?
I'm pretty conventional in my picks: Harding and Buchanan. |
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Marc Ravalomanana
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| Andrew Johnson. |
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banjois
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| William Henry Harrison (He died in 30 days!) <jazz hands> |
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Konglishman
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:51 am Post subject: |
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In my opinion, Jimmy Carter was the worst president in U.S. history. On the other hand, I also think that he has been one of the best ex-presidents.  |
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Olivencia
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Fox
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Woodrow Wilson signing into law the Federal Reserve Act makes him a pretty strong contender, regardless of what you might think about his other policies. This is a decision that's still harming us to this day. |
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i
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| Woodrow Wilson signing into law the Federal Reserve Act makes him a pretty strong contender, regardless of what you might think about his other policies. This is a decision that's still harming us to this day. |
I don't know if you're joking or not.
Regardless, he was also racist and about as arrogant and self-absorbed a President we've ever had.
Anyway, I used to think it was LBJ since he is the main reason "liberal" has such a bad connotation now. Then I visited his library in Austin and bought the propaganda. He passed a ton of legislation while as President, a lot of which was pretty progressive. A shame he got bogged down in Vietnam. I also think social policies started during his Presidency (beyond civil rights) led to a lot of wasteful, useless social programs. |
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Fox
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| Woodrow Wilson signing into law the Federal Reserve Act makes him a pretty strong contender, regardless of what you might think about his other policies. This is a decision that's still harming us to this day. |
I don't know if you're joking or not. |
Joking about my distaste for the Federal Reserve Act and my feeling that it's impacted the nation horribly? |
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Pluto
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| Woodrow Wilson signing into law the Federal Reserve Act makes him a pretty strong contender, regardless of what you might think about his other policies. This is a decision that's still harming us to this day. |
I don't know if you're joking or not. |
Joking about my distaste for the Federal Reserve Act and my feeling that it's impacted the nation horribly? |
He also disingenuously ran for re-election in 1916 as "the president who kept us out of war." However, once re-elected, he started up the national propaganda machine for the entrance of US forces in 1917. Honestly, I think WW's sale of the war would have been a lot more difficult without the Fed. Since borrowing or inflating money would have been a lot harder without a central bank, taxes would have had to be raised in order to finance the war. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| There seems to be a puritanical streak influencing the OP's choices rather than an assessment of the men's conduct of the affairs of state. |
Apparently for him screwing the opposite sex is worse than doing it to the country.
When did the Puritans come to the New World, almost 400 years ago? Will we never get rid of this legacy?
JFK  But not LBJ for being involved in his murder? And he even has "BJ" in his name 
| Fox wrote: |
| Woodrow Wilson signing into law the Federal Reserve Act makes him a pretty strong contender, regardless of what you might think about his other policies. This is a decision that's still harming us to this day. |
Yes, even he regretted that before he died.
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| I don't know if you're joking or not. |
Really?
| Pluto wrote: |
| I think WW's sale of the war would have been a lot more difficult without the Fed. Since borrowing or inflating money would have been a lot harder without a central bank, taxes would have had to be raised in order to finance the war. |
This is a good demonstration of the relation between capital and war.
Anyway, how about US Grant? The OP ought to like that choice because of his alcoholism. (And, he even has "US" in his name ) |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| Woodrow Wilson signing into law the Federal Reserve Act makes him a pretty strong contender, regardless of what you might think about his other policies. This is a decision that's still harming us to this day. |
I don't know if you're joking or not. |
Joking about my distaste for the Federal Reserve Act and my feeling that it's impacted the nation horribly? |
Yes, really. I wasn't sure since OTW and Fox butt heads so often. Fox's comment could have come straight from OTW. That's why I laughed. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| Woodrow Wilson signing into law the Federal Reserve Act makes him a pretty strong contender, regardless of what you might think about his other policies. This is a decision that's still harming us to this day. |
I don't know if you're joking or not. |
Joking about my distaste for the Federal Reserve Act and my feeling that it's impacted the nation horribly? |
Yes, really. I wasn't sure since OTW and Fox butt heads so often. Fox's comment could have come straight from OTW. That's why I laughed. |
While they have actually agreed on occasion, is there anyone on here (except Yat) who thinks the Fed is a good idea? |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| In a hundred years or so, when the people who were alive at the time are gone and the passions of the moment have died down, when people can look more dispassionately at the past, I bet Ronald Reagan will be seen in a head-long race to the bottom of the list. |
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