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Best choice for an MA/MEd in either English or TESOL
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naeyeonsan



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Pohang

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:33 pm    Post subject: Best choice for an MA/MEd in either English or TESOL Reply with quote

Greetings to everyone on the eslcafe board. I've been lurking here for a while and have read all relevant posts but am still scratching my head trying to decide on a graduate program that will be appropriate for me.

I'm an English teacher in Korea and am looking to upgrade my professional skills by earning a Master's Degree in either English (my major as an undergrad) or a TESOL (Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages).

Here are some schools I've looked into:

1. Institute of Education, University of London
MA TESOL
�3355 per year over two years, roughly US$11,000 total
(might be wrong about the fees)
http://www.ioe.ac.uk/study/masters/PMM9_TES9ID.html

2. University of South Africa (UNISA)
BA Hons in TESOL (2 years, 10 modules) followed by an MA in TESOL (1-2 years, full thesis [dissertation in South African English])
about US$6000 to US$7000 total for both degrees over three to four years
http://www.unisa.ac.za/contents/courses/docs/Linguistics_Applied_Linguistics_and_TESOL_2010.pdf

3. Fort Hays State University (FHSU)
Master of Liberal Studies with a concentration in ESOL
(18 credits in ESOL and Education + 10 credits in liberal arts + culminating experience = 31 credits)
about US$7000 over two years
http://www.fhsu.edu/virtualcollege/degrees/Masters/liberal-studies/

4. Fort Hays State University (FHSU)
Master of Science in Education with a concentration in ESOL
(18 or 20 credits in Education + 18 credits in ESOL = 36 credits)
about US$8500 over two years
may need a certified teaching license to even apply, something i don't have
http://www.fhsu.edu/virtualcollege/degrees/Masters/education/

5. University of Missouri
Master of Education in learning, teaching and curriculum with an emphasis in learning and instruction and a focus in TESOL (M Ed)
(21 credits in TESOL + 12 credits in Education = 33 credits)
about US$10,300 over two years
http://www.mudirect.missouri.edu/degprog/ed-TESOL/_details.shtm

6. University of Massachusetts Boston - UMass Online
MA in Applied Linguistics
(30 credits in TESOL and Applied Linguistics)
about US$14,000 over two years
http://www.umassonline.net/degrees/Online-Degree-Master-Applied-Linguistics.cfm

7. Western New Mexico University (WNMU)
MA in Interdisciplinary Studies (MAIS) with concentrations in Bilingual Education and English
(18 credits in Bilingual Education + 18 credits in English)
the WNMU Bilingual Education concentration includes a number of TESOL courses
about US$6000 over two years
http://www.wnmu.edu/VirtualCampus/InterdisciplinaryMasters.htm

8. Northwestern State University Louisiana (NSULA)
MEd in Curriculum and Instruction with a focus in English Education
Professional Studies track, for students without teaching certification
(24 credits in Education + 12 credits in English Education = 36 credits)
about US$7000 over two years
http://ensu.nsula.edu/master-of-education-in-curriculum-and-instruction/

9. Northwestern State University Louisiana (NSULA)
MA in English (with at least six hours in Linguistics/Writing)
(24 credits through coursework + 6 credit thesis = 30 credits)
about US$6000 over two years
http://ensu.nsula.edu/master-of-arts-degree-in-english/

Whew! That's a long list!

Now, here's my question: Which school or degree should I choose?

I look forward to hearing what everyone has to say, especially if

a) you feel strongly for or against studying at a particular school
b) you have personal experience with one of the schools I'm considering
c) you can suggest another alternative school/program
d) you have any other advice that might be helpful in one way or another

Thanks in advance!
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are these course online or on campus? I'm interested in taking a similar course, but I know some people have strong opinions about doing it online.
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naeyeonsan



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Pohang

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally forgot to mention the issue of studying online in my original post.

Just to clear that up:

All the programs I listed are offered online via distance learning.

All the universities I am looking into are either regionally-accredited in the US (the gold standard in American accreditation) or recognized by the national ministry of education (in the case of the University of London and UNISA).

I will be studying while teaching.

I know it'll be tough but I can't see myself taking two years off work just to study.
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calicoe



Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good list and very helpful post. I am considering similar questions. I am leaning toward the University of Missouri, M.Ed.

However, most of your quotes say "over two years." Is that the tuition for two years, or per year? It seems awfully cheap.
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naeyeonsan



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Location: Pohang

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The prices I quoted are for the whole program/degree. My budget is limited to about US$10,000, so I only looked into programs I could afford.

@calicoe: What do you like about the Missouri program?

For other readers:

Though I'm American and am currently leaning towards obtaining an American degree just in case I decide to return home to teach in the US, I am also interested in other British/Australian options.

The programs I have heard about (mostly from reading similar posts on eslcafe) are:

in the UK:
1. University of Birmingham
2. U of Nottingham
3. U of Portsmouth
4. U of Reading
5. U of Exeter
6. U of Manchester
7. U of Leicester

in Australia:
1. University of Southern Queensland (USQ)
2. U of Tasmania
3. Macquire U
4. U of New England
5. Charles Darwin U

Does anyone have any knowledge or recent personal experience of these programs?
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naeyeonsan wrote:


in the UK:
1. University of Birmingham
2. U of Nottingham
3. U of Portsmouth
4. U of Reading
5. U of Exeter
6. U of Manchester
7. U of Leicester


Though I have no personal experience of the program itself, Portsmouth isn't well regarded as an institution in the UK itself. The rest are reputable and even, in the cases of Nottingham and Leicester, amongst the elite universities in the UK. Not that reputation necessarily counts for much.
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livinginkorea



Joined: 11 Jun 2004
Location: Korea, South of the border

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

University of Birmingham, MA in TESOL graduate here.

Let me know if you have any questions about the program.
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naeyeonsan



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Location: Pohang

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

livinginkorea wrote:
University of Birmingham, MA in TESOL graduate here.

Let me know if you have any questions about the program.


I've read a lot about the Birmingham MA TESOL program on other threads. Hope you'll forgive me for not looking up this info on my own...

1. How much did it cost?
2. How long did it take?
3. What were the courses like?
4. Was there much interaction with a)your professors b) your tutor c) your 'classmates'?

Look forward to your answers/experiences/thoughts.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll spend about 13 million after books and expenses at Univ. of Missouri.
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naeyeonsan



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Pohang

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
You'll spend about 13 million after books and expenses at Univ. of Missouri.


Excellent point. Probably end up costing even more.

Any cheaper alternatives bassexpander?
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Toju



Joined: 06 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Birmingham:

13.2 for the course.

This is Korea - you don't buy books per say.

2 1/2 years.

They have skype sessions regualrly.

Tutor read first draft of each paper and gave feedback on it.

Professors - zero contact.

Peers - up to you tpo organise.
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livinginkorea



Joined: 11 Jun 2004
Location: Korea, South of the border

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toju wrote:
Birmingham:


Professors - zero contact.

.


This isn't correct. Bham has summer seminars where profs do come to Korea for an intensive course. Also there is always somebody who comes for the International KOTESOL Conference too.

The responsibility is definitely on you. Some people prefer to study alone, others make groups and meet/email/Skype regularly. I was in a Skype group for nearly 2 years and it helped me so much but it depends on your personal style of studying.

The 13.2 million won is paid in 6 installments over the 2 and a half years. Also, if you want to do it faster then you can go to Bham during the vacation (or indeed any time after module 2 or 3 I think) and take classes there. No difference in price.

Let me know if you have any other questions.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naeyeonsan wrote:


in Australia:
1. University of Southern Queensland (USQ)
2. U of Tasmania
3. Macquire U
4. U of New England
5. Charles Darwin U

Does anyone have any knowledge or recent personal experience of these programs?


I graduated with an MA AL from UNE and did a PG Cert in Linguistics Research from Macquarie U (MQ). Both unis were good, though the Linguistics Dep't at Macquarie is the biggest in Australia and as such has the top researchers in AppLing and Ling. The cost for the MA AL at UNE was 12 million over two years, I completed the MA part-time like most students, and the cost for the MA AL at Macquarie is slightly higher, clocking in at 16.5 million Won. At MQ the books are included in the course fees and sent out with the beginning of the term package, at least that was my experience.
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kimchikowboy



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Birmingham:

13.2 for the course.


Is this for everyone, or only Brits/EU students?

Also, thanks everyone for the info. Like so many others, I'm also looking at programs.
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naeyeonsan



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What were the distance ed courses like at both the University of New England and Macquire University? Was there lots of interaction? Lots of feedback? Audio/Video lectures you could listen to or watch online?
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