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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Oliver wrote: |
It's a toughie. Back home we wouldn't think twice about phoning the police. In Korea it can be difficult. You can actually feel very alienated listening to it. At the end of the day though it comes down to what is right or wrong. Beating another human being is wrong. You can choose to do nothing or you can choose to act.
The culture argument begins to wear very thin very quickly. |
Not to mention the fact that a lot of the time, when a foreigner calls the police on a violent, drunken Korean man, he falsely accuses the foreigner of attacking him, and then the foreigner gets taken in to the police station for his trouble and the violent drunkard gets to walk. |
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Oliver
Joined: 19 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, redaxe, that would suck. Though it's no different here to be honest. A violent pratt may falsely accuse you of doing something which lands you in the cells too.
Police protocol and all that....It's Universal |
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tall_dave
Joined: 02 Nov 2009
Location: Songtan, S. Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: Domestic Abuse Situation |
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| DosEquisXX wrote: |
I heard a husband and wife arguing in the apartment next to me. The husband hit the wife hard enough that I could hear it.
I do not speak Korean. I did nothing about it. Was this the right decision? |
I have seen it happen in the streets many times. It's unfortunate but it's a fact of live everywhere; not just here. The lady can also call the police. Thing is, you need to stay out of it. It's a Korean thing (in Korea) |
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thunderbird
Joined: 18 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: Domestic Abuse Situation |
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| DosEquisXX wrote: |
I heard a husband and wife arguing in the apartment next to me. The husband hit the wife hard enough that I could hear it.
I do not speak Korean. I did nothing about it. Was this the right decision? |
same thing happed to me, argument and than a loud slap, dunno who hit who though. |
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conrad2
Joined: 05 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| blackjack wrote: |
If they won't come out for a domestic violence case you can always make a noise control complaint.
also you sure you heard what you heard. I had an ex that used to throw things and make a lot of noise. Just saying |
You dated that girl too? |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again
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| Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:35 am Post subject: |
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I think its everyone to their own,
A couple of years ago I heard a serious commotion, honestly someone getting bounced of the walls, a few doors down. So I probably did the stupid thing and broke open the safety chain and this extremly frightened young Korean lady literally came crawling out the door at a rate of knots.
Her assailant was another female Korean she was living with ( I didn't know this at the time) who was several dress sizes bigger. The others living in the closer apartments opened their and were quite helpful after I had broken down the door. She chose to stay in my apartment until a male friend off hers arrived to take her away. I also didn't speak any Korean. But I'm imagining she felt safe at my place. She did write a niote that I had a female Korean translate for me, basically she she that she was in major trouble and thanked me.
Sadly though she was back living with her gf about 2 weeks later, which is par for the course,statistically wise, for victims of domestic abuse.
I would also leave any of the 3 public schools I teach at on the spot if I ever witnessed any student being physically abused. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:43 am Post subject: Re: Domestic Abuse Situation |
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| [size=18]In you don't know Korean, to report domestic violence, call the 24-hour tourist hotline at 1330. They provide English service. Tell the person that you don't speak Korean so you need them to call the police for you and give them the location of where the problem is at. |
I just want to say that while this may work sometimes, it didn't for me: about a year ago I saw a woman get hit by a car while walking. I saw this through my apartment window and didn't know if anyone was calling the police. So I called 1330, and the woman said she needed to talk to a Korean. I explained that I was alone so that was impossible, and she said there's nothing she could do unless she spoke to a Korean. I reiterated, and she said again that she needed to talk to a Korean. End of conversation: a woman got hit by a car, and she wouldn't help. What I want to know is: what good would it do to talk to a Korean person? I don't get it at all... |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| Nationalism and their individual duty to preserve the korean race and identity is fun-da-mental to these people. So is the notion of personal sacrifice for the greater good of the nation as a whole. |
This may've been true for the old generation, but I teach a lot of university students, and let me tell you: the sense of entitlement many Korean uni students have is exponentially worse than most students at my university when I was in school. |
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Oliver
Joined: 19 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:08 am Post subject: |
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I think its everyone to their own,
A couple of years ago I heard a serious commotion, honestly someone getting bounced of the walls, a few doors down. So I probably did the stupid thing and broke open the safety chain and this extremly frightened young Korean lady literally came crawling out the door at a rate of knots.
Her assailant was another female Korean she was living with ( I didn't know this at the time) who was several dress sizes bigger. The others living in the closer apartments opened their and were quite helpful after I had broken down the door. She chose to stay in my apartment until a male friend off hers arrived to take her away. I also didn't speak any Korean. But I'm imagining she felt safe at my place. She did write a niote that I had a female Korean translate for me, basically she she that she was in major trouble and thanked me.
Sadly though she was back living with her gf about 2 weeks later, which is par for the course,statistically wise, for victims of domestic abuse.
I would also leave any of the 3 public schools I teach at on the spot if I ever witnessed any student being physically abused. |
Spot on. With regards to leaving the schools if you witnessed physical abuse, would you go back if the schools said they would stop beating the kids? I walked out of my school too because of the same reason. |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
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No I wouldn't go back.
I don't know the stats but if its the same for men that bash women then the reoffending rate is very high. I'm a registered social worker, so i'd actually be aiding and abetting childabuse if I went back (in my opinion)
Theres heaps of countries out there wanting TESOL teachers and I could always go back to my old Government job. |
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UknowsI
Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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| The threshold for yelling and crying seems a bit lower here than what I'm used to, and that's also something you have to take into consideration. I'm not defending abuse, but I would hear yelling and then loud crying from my neighbours apartment many days a week. Some people might have busted the door open to come in rescue, but the fact was that my neighbour was alone in the apartment and talking in the phone... Kept the whole neighbourhood awake too... |
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