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beckymb
Joined: 24 Nov 2009
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:25 pm Post subject: My about to be hakwon boss doesn't trust me? |
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I am an F-4 visa holder that just got hired recently by a hakwon that I honestly think is a trustworthy hakwon. She recently sent me an email telling me that she is worried about me showing up in Korea using her plane ticket and then never showing up at her school to work. She said that it has been suggested that she come to the airport and take my passport but she does not want to do that. So she asked me if there was a way I could show my commitment and other formal documents.
I have nothing to show her. I sent her my signed contract already, but my college diploma has not been mailed to me yet [graduated recently] and my background check is in the apostling process. What do I do? I have nothing to give her to reassure her...
[I will NOT give her my passport] |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Don't trust her, either. Oh, and welcome to hagwon life.  |
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conrad2
Joined: 05 Nov 2009
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Buy your own ticket to Korea, and let her reimburse you when you start working. |
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Rory_Calhoun27
Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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I made the mistake of giving my passport away after my roommate pulled the midnight run.... but got it back after a problem with a few hours of overtime, and got the recruiter involved, where I told them I'd forget about if if I got the passport back..... and it somehow appeared...
You havent sent any your materials over then if you dont have your diploma..... all you can do is stick to your commitment (if you still have it) and keep repeating it....
one thing I learned in an education course was the "broken record" technique, where you just keep repeating in a calm manner what you want done. It's for children of course, but it also works in a vast array of other situations as well, especially in another country...  |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: My about to be hakwon boss doesn't trust me? |
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beckymb wrote: |
She said that it has been suggested that she come to the airport and take my passport but she does not want to do that. |
She doesn't trust you because she can't be trusted herself. The suggestion she's "repeating" is illegal. I think you'd be better off not working for that liar. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Tell her nicely that you'll work somewhere else since she doesn't trust you.  |
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frankly speaking
Joined: 23 Oct 2005
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Give her the address of your family in Korea. I also think that paying the ticket yourself is probably the best and have her reimburse you after a week.
Tell her that she has all of your information and that she could just have you arrested if you did something like that.
I think that it is natural for some bosses to have fears, but just try to convince her that you are not of that sort.
Never give your passport to anyone. |
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: My about to be hakwon boss doesn't trust me? |
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beckymb wrote: |
I have nothing to show her. I sent her my signed contract already, but my college diploma has not been mailed to me yet [graduated recently] and my background check is in the apostling process. What do I do? I have nothing to give her to reassure her...
[I will NOT give her my passport] |
As well you should not. Tell her this:
1) Immigration will only issue one visa issuance number per person.
2) This number is tied to your passport.
3) When you get here, you need to work, and since your current visa is with her, you can't work anywhere else.
4) If you can't work for her, you might as well not come at all, because you're going to have to start all over again with a different employer.
This isn't Japan. You visa is tied to your employer, and without mutual consent of both employers, There Can Be Only One. She's probably just inexperienced. Remind her of these facts.
Edit: I just re-read your post. The facts may be different for F-4's. In that case, you're looking for a gesture of Good Faith on her part by paying your airfare. It's your return ticket she's holding hostage until you complete your contract. |
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broken76
Joined: 27 Jan 2008
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Since you're on an F4 Visa this is somewhat understandable because there really is nothing tying you down to the position like an E2 Visa would. You shouldn't give her your passport since that is just a general nono and you'll need your passport to get your ARC if you haven't gotten on already.
It's actually surprising that your school flew you out as most schools do not provide airfare up from for F4 Visa holders. The main reason is that there have been cases where the teachers pretty much used the opportunity for free flight. I wouldn't be personally offended as it has been used in the past by others. It's the equivalent of not trusting a Nigerian telling you that they if you can pay the banking fees they'll be able to send you millions of dollars. |
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beckymb
Joined: 24 Nov 2009
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the suggestions!
At first it kind of pissed me off because I know I'm not trying to steal her plane ticket and whatnot, but I realize how hard it is to trust someone you don't know. |
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mike123_ca

Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Location: wandering between Chonan and Asan
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe your boss would feel more comfortable if you came here on an E2 visa.  |
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balzor

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Ramen wrote: |
Tell her nicely that you'll work somewhere else since she doesn't trust you.  |
This, If you have not given her reason not to trust you then you might be seeing signs of problems to come. |
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blackjack

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: anyang
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: My about to be hakwon boss doesn't trust me? |
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ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
beckymb wrote: |
I have nothing to show her. I sent her my signed contract already, but my college diploma has not been mailed to me yet [graduated recently] and my background check is in the apostling process. What do I do? I have nothing to give her to reassure her...
[I will NOT give her my passport] |
As well you should not. Tell her this:
1) Immigration will only issue one visa issuance number per person.
2) This number is tied to your passport.
3) When you get here, you need to work, and since your current visa is with her, you can't work anywhere else.
4) If you can't work for her, you might as well not come at all, because you're going to have to start all over again with a different employer.
This isn't Japan. You visa is tied to your employer, and without mutual consent of both employers, There Can Be Only One. She's probably just inexperienced. Remind her of these facts.
Edit: I just re-read your post. The facts may be different for F-4's. In that case, you're looking for a gesture of Good Faith on her part by paying your airfare. It's your return ticket she's holding hostage until you complete your contract. |
None of this is true. He is F4 not E2 |
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PaperTiger

Joined: 31 May 2005 Location: Ulaanbataar
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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mike123_ca wrote: |
Maybe your boss would feel more comfortable if you came here on an E2 visa.  |
Conversely, you shouldn't trust them. I'm betting if you pay for your ticket, they will invent some pretext for not reimbursing you, or fire you early and make you pay twice for it.
It's probably better if you don't come at all. They don't trust you because they assume that everyone does business the way they do...lie, cheat, and steal. Industry standards. |
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: My about to be hakwon boss doesn't trust me? |
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blackjack wrote: |
Edit: I just re-read your post. The facts may be different for F-4's. In that case, you're looking for a gesture of Good Faith on her part by paying your airfare. It's your return ticket she's holding hostage until you complete your contract. |
None of this is true. He is F4 not E2[/quote]
Uhhh.. thanks, man. |
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