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Shouldnt schools care more about references?

 
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davochest



Joined: 21 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:49 am    Post subject: Shouldnt schools care more about references? Reply with quote

The subject title sayS it all. schools rarely contact directors or VPs of prev ious schools. Wouldnt this solve so many problems? I mean i just cant stand it anymore. My school hired some newbie blond . but i know for a fact thay said no to a guy with unbelievable references and a teaching degree. It wasnt a money issue either. He would of got the same as her. Dont the students and the parents who are payn for the kids to be educated desreve the guy with street cred? I swear my boss just wants to bone her!
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jmuns



Joined: 09 Sep 2009
Location: earth

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

or she types, spells, and i'm just assuming here, but speaks better than you too. sounds to me like they just hired a better teacher than they had before. just my opinion.
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PigeonFart



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no Occupational Psychologist, but i do know that studies from journals show there is a very LOW level of predictive validity from job references. In other words, references are of practically no use in predicting how someone will perform on the job.

The standard job interview is a much better predictor. Yet many businesses still rely on the reference letter.

A reference is a guy who you don't know, telling you about a guy who you don't know. Kind of rediculous really when you think about it.


As for your particular school, who knows what reasons the korean management had for their decision? But i'd guess that if your instinct told you the other guy would be better, then you're more likely to be right. I'd trust the opinion of a teacher over a passportless Korean manager anyday.
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davochest



Joined: 21 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jmuns wrote:
or she types, spells, and i'm just assuming here, but speaks better than you too. sounds to me like they just hired a better teacher than they had before. just my opinion.


Sorry had some wine cuz on vacation.not a good excuse but maybe your reading comprehension skills need some work or 'had some wine urself. lol. She hasnst replaced anyone. The school have asked me to train her and i guess i just would of prefered a professional rather than someone who has never taught before.
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davochest



Joined: 21 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PigeonFart wrote:
I'm no Occupational Psychologist, but i do know that studies from journals show there is a very LOW level of predictive validity from job references. In other words, references are of practically no use in predicting how someone will perform on the job.

The standard job interview is a much better predictor. Yet many businesses still rely on the reference letter.

A reference is a guy who you don't know, telling you about a guy who you don't know. Kind of rediculous really when you think about it.


As for your particular school, who knows what reasons the korean management had for their decision? But i'd guess that if your instinct told you the other guy would be better, then you're more likely to be right. I'd trust the opinion of a teacher over a passportless Korean manager anyday.


I agree totally and i should of tiltled the post "why dont they contact past schools" . Speaking directly with past managers is pretty effective. That too has some hazards but few. Usually one korean boss will be honest with another unless they are in competition with one another. Your right about the references though. Alot are bogus.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the schools....

The better schools do care.
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