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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:16 am    Post subject: ZERO foreigers caught for illegal tutoring Reply with quote

Wow, and I thought everyone was saying that we're the problem??

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/02/117_60240.html
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...About 1,720 suspected illegal tutoring cases have been reported to the authorities. Only 368 cases were subject to punishment, all of which involved Korean tutors.

No foreign tutors have been caught by the authorities for violation of the Private Education Law, the ministry said.


More than 15,000 tutors have registered their activities to the appropriate education office since the government introduced programs to reward informants on illegal tutoring last July.

In Seoul alone, 11,967 cases of private tutoring have been registered with education offices in the city. Among them, 76 have been made by foreigners holding F-series visas such as the F-2 (spouses of Koreans), F-4 (ethnic Koreans) and F-5 (permanent residence). Most of them are teaching English.

Under the Immigration Law, foreigners with other visa types are not allowed to offer private tutoring to make money, except for those with student status, who can do so with restricted hours upon approval from their professors. Otherwise, foreign nationals are subject to fines and deportation.

In the meantime, the ministry has delivered official documents to public and private universities as well as elementary and secondary schools, requesting them to ensure their native English-speaking teachers are not involved in illegal tutoring.


Gotta love that last line. Looks like WE are not the ones they need to be worried about!
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The Cosmic Hum



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: ZERO foreigers caught for illegal tutoring Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Wow, and I thought everyone was saying that we're the problem??

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/02/117_60240.html
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...About 1,720 suspected illegal tutoring cases have been reported to the authorities. Only 368 cases were subject to punishment, all of which involved Korean tutors.

No foreign tutors have been caught by the authorities for violation of the Private Education Law, the ministry said.


More than 15,000 tutors have registered their activities to the appropriate education office since the government introduced programs to reward informants on illegal tutoring last July.

In Seoul alone, 11,967 cases of private tutoring have been registered with education offices in the city. Among them, 76 have been made by foreigners holding F-series visas such as the F-2 (spouses of Koreans), F-4 (ethnic Koreans) and F-5 (permanent residence). Most of them are teaching English.

Under the Immigration Law, foreigners with other visa types are not allowed to offer private tutoring to make money, except for those with student status, who can do so with restricted hours upon approval from their professors. Otherwise, foreign nationals are subject to fines and deportation.

In the meantime, the ministry has delivered official documents to public and private universities as well as elementary and secondary schools, requesting them to ensure their native English-speaking teachers are not involved in illegal tutoring.


Gotta love that last line. Looks like WE are not the ones they need to be worried about!


Not sure if it was your intention to misrepresent that article bass.
You really have to read that article to understand the perspective.
Kang Shin Who is lamenting the fact that foreigners are not being wrung out for crimes which Korean nationals are.
It's a fair complaint, but given the slant KSW usually puts in his articles, one must always be ready to dismiss most everything he writes as fantasy.
This article is another attempt at making foreigners out to be doing something wrong...even when they aren't.
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David Lee Roth



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Students are allowed to teach privately? Anybody know the exact details of that law?
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wylies99



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In the meantime, the ministry has delivered official documents to public and private universities as well as elementary and secondary schools, requesting them to ensure their native English-speaking teachers are not involved in illegal tutoring.

Way to create even more ill will for foreign teachers.They've already ASSUMED that all of our diplomas are fakes and that all of us have HIV and swine flu. Rolling Eyes

Yet another round of memos to public schools that can only cause trouble for many innocent teachers. Many Principals and co-teachers don't understand the BS political motivation behind these kinds of memos and assume the worst about the foreign teacher at their school.
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Jandar



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

David Lee Roth wrote:
Students are allowed to teach privately? Anybody know the exact details of that law?


Yes, your professor lords over your D series Student visa. Intern-ships are part of the curriculum. Also tutoring fellow students is allowed with the professors permission.

It ain't rocket science.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gotta love that last line. Looks like WE are not the ones they need to be worried about!


A- By doing this he points to foreigners....

B- By sheer numbers its logical the larger problem of illegal tutors would involve Koreans.

Whats your point?
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Seoulio



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: ZERO foreigers caught for illegal tutoring Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Wow, and I thought everyone was saying that we're the problem??

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/02/117_60240.html
Quote:


...About 1,720 suspected illegal tutoring cases have been reported to the authorities. Only 368 cases were subject to punishment, all of which involved Korean tutors.

No foreign tutors have been caught by the authorities for violation of the Private Education Law, the ministry said.


More than 15,000 tutors have registered their activities to the appropriate education office since the government introduced programs to reward informants on illegal tutoring last July.

In Seoul alone, 11,967 cases of private tutoring have been registered with education offices in the city. Among them, 76 have been made by foreigners holding F-series visas such as the F-2 (spouses of Koreans), F-4 (ethnic Koreans) and F-5 (permanent residence). Most of them are teaching English.

Under the Immigration Law, foreigners with other visa types are not allowed to offer private tutoring to make money, except for those with student status, who can do so with restricted hours upon approval from their professors. Otherwise, foreign nationals are subject to fines and deportation.

In the meantime, the ministry has delivered official documents to public and private universities as well as elementary and secondary schools, requesting them to ensure their native English-speaking teachers are not involved in illegal tutoring.


Gotta love that last line. Looks like WE are not the ones they need to be worried about!



Yes because clearly there are ZERO cases where a foreigner is teaching illegal privates.

This never happens.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: ZERO foreigers caught for illegal tutoring Reply with quote

The Cosmic Hum wrote:

This article is another attempt at making foreigners out to be doing something wrong...even when they aren't.


That was my point.
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Agent 13



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just another pathetically amateurish effort from this lazy wage-slave who quite obviously resents his miserable life because he is stuck in a dead-end job working for this Mickey-Mouse outfit masquerading as an "English newspaper." The guy can barely write a coherent clause in English, and even when he learns a new vocabulary word like lamented, he can't apply it in the correct context. He's just a sad individual who's well aware that he's already lost big-time in the game of life, and so he's got an ax to grind. But he still can't win, ever. And you just know he thinks about his whole sorry situation every time he lights up one of his thin cigs or takes a swig of soju after he finally gets off work late at night, right before heading home once again to a wife who keeps nagging him because they're behind on the mortgage payment and he can't ever seem to make enough money for them to live a decent life.

Anyway, all this joke of a "reporter" did for this article, once again, was to slap together some statistics that he pulled off a website and then make one phone call, during which he interviewed some official who basically told him, "What the hell do you think we're supposed to do, dumbass - barge into someone's home and start ransacking the plac