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logan
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:01 am Post subject: Current state of ESL in South Korea |
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| I am a freelance photojournalist working on a story about ESL in South Korea. I am concentrating on teachers and Hogwans. I am interested in gaging the spectrum of teachers in South Korea reasons for coming to teach, education background, views of Korea before during and after, etc. I am also interested in the current treatment of foreign teachers in the South Korean Hogwan system. I have heard some real horror stories and am curious to know if it still is going on. All those that would be interested in speaking please feel free to contact me at [email protected] |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:35 am Post subject: Re: Current state of ESL in South Korea |
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| logan wrote: |
| I am a freelance photojournalist working on a story about ESL in South Korea. I am concentrating on teachers and Hogwans. I am interested in gaging the spectrum of teachers in South Korea reasons for coming to teach, education background, views of Korea before during and after, etc. I am also interested in the current treatment of foreign teachers in the South Korean Hogwan system. I have heard some real horror stories and am curious to know if it still is going on. All those that would be interested in speaking please feel free to contact me at [email protected] |
Clarification please--is it gagging or gauging teachers that you're interested in? |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| Don't wait for us to contact you! Search the archives at Dave's Cafe and PM those with perspectives you want. If you play the wait and hear game you'll just get the most biased whiners, apologists and special interests. There are several different kinds of experiences all along the spectrum. Overgeneralizations aren't necessary. |
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logan
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| I'm interested in putting together a real world view of whats going on in the ESL scene in Korea. I've been working on this issue on and off for the last couple of years. I'm interested in talking and also documenting, photographing. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 3:44 am Post subject: |
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I think you'd have to garuantee anonymity for those still employed in their jobs, and who might actually want to recieve their final bonuses.
why not just reprint stuff from the archives here/ i don't have time to go over all my complaints again. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: Current state of ESL in South Korea |
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| logan wrote: |
| I am a freelance photojournalist working on a story about ESL in South Korea. I am concentrating on teachers and Hogwans. I am interested in gaging the spectrum of teachers in South Korea reasons for coming to teach, education background, views of Korea before during and after, etc. I am also interested in the current treatment of foreign teachers in the South Korean Hogwan system. I have heard some real horror stories and am curious to know if it still is going on. All those that would be interested in speaking please feel free to contact me at [email protected] |
Just make sure you get BOTH sides of the horror stories. This board is rather one-sided in its presentation of life in Korea (as in all Koreans are bad, foreigners are all victims). Yes, many horror stories exist about foreigners in hagwons but then again, there are also the foreigners from hell who teach in Korea (those who use their position to bed students, take off without paying bills, go to class drunk and the like). |
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rollieboy
Joined: 10 Feb 2004
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: Current state of ESL in South Korea |
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| logan wrote: |
| I am a freelance photojournalist working on a story about ESL in South Korea. |
If you're looking to speak with people who will give you an objective view on the state of the Korean ESL "industry" then you have definitely come to the wrong place. Apologists and dysfunctional Internet junkies trying to stave off the harsh realities their miserable lives are all you'll find in here. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think too many (if any) publications would be interested in a photo-based ESL story. I think I hear the bell ringing for the start of your next hagwan class. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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rollieboy wrote,
Apologists and dysfunctional Internet junkies trying to stave off the harsh realities their miserable lives are all you'll find in here.
rollieboy, which one are you--apologist or dysfunctional Internet junky.
Perhaps, you shoud have a few more types. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
rollieboy wrote,
Apologists and dysfunctional Internet junkies trying to stave off the harsh realities their miserable lives are all you'll find in here.
rollieboy, which one are you--apologist or dysfunctional Internet junky.
Perhaps, you shoud have a few more types. |
Considering that you post only negative articles on Korea, RR, you are definitely a dysfunctional Net junkie. |
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Pusanpoe
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:37 pm Post subject: Hogwash |
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| Go to the expat telegraph (London) Some interesting stuff there. Also was a guy here called Expatjoe. dig him up and ask him for some views. Also Efllawguy at Koreanbridges through Busanweb. Go to EFL law forum. And attend the KOTESOL conference in Busan or get somebody on your behalf to do that. The EFL law workshop there should be most interesting for meeting people with insights to your question. Overall, there are also a lot of hogwons who are doing a really good job and put up with a lot of unnecessary flak from amateur teachers as well. Balance as always is required |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:57 am Post subject: Re: Current state of ESL in South Korea |
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| logan wrote: |
| I am a freelance photojournalist working on a story about ESL in South Korea. I am concentrating on teachers and Hogwans. I am interested in gaging the spectrum of teachers in South Korea reasons for coming to teach, education background, views of Korea before during and after, etc. I am also interested in the current treatment of foreign teachers in the South Korean Hogwan system. I have heard some real horror stories and am curious to know if it still is going on. All those that would be interested in speaking please feel free to contact me at [email protected] |
Get in touch with Bill Richards he would be more than glad to help you out. |
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rollieboy
Joined: 10 Feb 2004
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| Considering that you post only negative articles on Korea, RR, you are definitely a dysfunctional Net junkie. |
No, I'm just an Internet junkie. You on the other hand are an apologist. I guess that you're just another person who cringes when they read opinions which don't ape the "company" line. Sometimes you have to leave the PC room for life to wash over you. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| rollieboy wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| Considering that you post only negative articles on Korea, RR, you are definitely a dysfunctional Net junkie. |
No, I'm just an Internet junkie. You on the other hand are an apologist. I guess that you're just another person who cringes when they read opinions which don't ape the "company" line. Sometimes you have to leave the PC room for life to wash over you. |
First off, I called Real Reality a dysfunctional Net junkie, so try to actually read my post. And I've been called an apologist by whiners and well, if that livens up their miserable existence, I have no problem with that. I just present an alternative view to the gripes and complaints that the whiners have and stuff. And no, I don't live by my PC but I'm not gonna resort to any name-calling like some people have. |
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Hyalucent
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: British North America
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You writing this down?  |
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