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[geldedgoat]

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Part 2.

As much as I dislike Stewart for his preferential treatment of Democrats and liberalism on his show and the manner in which he dismisses criticism by hiding behind his comedy (both of which are barely touched on in this interview), I absolutely love him for his destruction of personalities like O'Reilly and Beck (though, again, it would be nice to see the same levelled at the equally-deserving Olbermann, Maddow, and company). O'Reilly really should have prepared better for this interview, as Stewart dominated him from beginning to end.

Can anyone find a link to an unedited version? There's obviously quite a bit that was taken out.

[Street Magic]

[Fox]

[geldedgoat]

No, I hadn't. That's a start, though it doesn't come close to comparing to the sheer volume and intensity of attacks on Fox News personalities.

[Fox]

[geldedgoat]

[pkang0202]

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-et-oreilly-stewart4-2010feb04,0,3697796.story?track=rss

Interesting view of the exchange.



I think O'Reilly gets more criticism than be deserves. I don't know why people think someone has to "win" when he interviews. Millions of Americans aren't going to change their minds and follow O'Reilly's ideology because he won an argument. Millions of Americans are going to change their minds and stop watching O'Reilly because he loses an argument.

The truth of the matter is, he wins no matter what! People watched his show. People are talking about his interviews. He's making news. The only way he loses is if he has a guest on this show and no one cares enough to talk/write about it.


I like Bill. He doesn't care about going on Letterman, or the Daily Show. To him its like going to an away game.

[mithridates]

[kabrams]

It's inevitable that Jon Stewart won't be impartial. He is a comedian, a liberal, and he has writers who often make his jokes. And did I mention he's a comedian? He's not a news commentator. Half the jokes he makes aren't even about real things that happened.

Jon Stewart has levied a lot of criticism especially towards CNN as a whole, and recently, Olbermann, Maddow and MSNBC in general.

He's was especially critical of the Democrats during the health care and ACORN debacles.

He's not perfect. But he does not shy away from criticizing Democrats or other liberals.

[Ya-ta Boy]

The most trusted man in news went up against the most trusted news network. I'll have to watch it later.

[Fox]

I finally sat down and watched the posted interviews. I have to say, O'Reilly had a number of pretty weak points.

1) Enthusiastically pushing the poll that said Fox News was the most trusted organization in news while dismissing as unimportant the poll that said Jon Stewart was the most trusted man in news was pretty disingenuous, because it makes a good point. When the public is labelling a liberally biased comedian as the most trusted man in news, it shows that the public's general judgment of trustworthiness isn't that great.

2) O'Reilly talking about how Cheney and McCain wouldn't come on his show being proof of lack of bias is just confusing. We don't know why they chose not to go on his show, but what is clear is that O'Reilly seems to think that an offer to be on his show is some sort of wonderfully generous gift, and that anyone passing on it must have an ulterior motive. Frankly they probably just felt they had better things to do with their time.

3) His dismissal of Beck and Hannity as "just a couple of guys," is incredibly confusing, given these are majorly watched parts of the Fox line-up. His characterization of Beck as 'every guy' or something is especially strange. The average man is nothing like the character Glenn Beck portrays on his show.

4) His attempt to draw a clear-cut line between opinion and news is disingenuous as well, for reasons Jon Stewart points out. Honestly, the entire concept of clear-cut differentiation between opinion and news is pretty disingenuous, and is largely used by those who are trying to defend organizations like Fox News. There is news where opinion plays only a small part, and there is news in which opinion plays a large part, but there are few pure opinion pieces on television (as even a heavily opinionated article will generally convey at least some news), and pure news pieces are virtually non-existent, as even the simple choice of what to cover and what not to cover tends to show at least some bias.

Needless to say, I don't think O'Reilly did a great job. However, I do think he was pretty fair; he gave Stewart time to articulate full ideas, and he asked at least some questions designed to allow Stewart to elaborate on his case rather than purely attacking it.

[Pluto]

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