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[fromtheuk]

In my last job in England, many of the supervisors/managers were women.

There was a lot of back biting that went on, and I honestly felt many of them were nasty.

Ever since women entered the workplace, in order to survive and thrive, I suppose women had to work much harder to prove themselves.

Now, they really are everywhere when it comes to work.

My concept of women is one of caring feminine creatures, helpful, kind, sensitive, loving, always ready to put on their oven gloves to cook etc.

But nowadays it seems a role reversal has taken place.

Some women in my view have become mean, nasty, and overly keen to get ahead, whereas men seem to be sensitive, reasonable, and aren't as over the top as some 'power crazed' women are.

I'm all for success, but when I observe power hungry women acting like men, it's a real turn-off.

It's still predominantly a man's world, and there are plenty of nasty, career-obsessed men out there too.

Yes, women still aren't treated fairly, they aren't always paid as much as men when they do the same job etc.

But have women changed? Changed for the better?

[D.D.]

Just watch the movie mean girls and it sums it up. Asians also tend to backstab in a feminine way as well regardless of their gender.

[littlelisa]

[D-Man]

In my personal experience,women bosses are the worst.Many feel like they have to play the strong woman role and are out to prove their"toughness".

I have no problem with a woman taking a top mangement position, but they really need to chill out more!

[fromtheuk]

littlelisa - I meant those women who like to cook have one of the traits I associate with kind-hearted women, I didn't say they should stay in the kitchen.

I agree with you D.D. in the workplace some female managers put on an embarrassing 'I'm just as tough as males' act.

[sugarkane59]

[fromtheuk]

Thank you for calling me hon. Do you wear oven gloves too? Please tell me that you do.

I didn't mean turn-on in a sexual sense, I just meant it is unattractive to see women act like idotic men, it's also slightly bizarre.

I'm not worried about the competition from women, cos I'm a loser anyway.

I love my mom, and most women too.

[rusty1983]

I had some women managers when I was working at a large company in England and they were fine, had no issues really. In fact I do like having women bosses as theyre generally easier to manipulate . They swallow any story you care to make up, and by this I mean if you go to your female boss and tell her you have troubles with your girlfriend, she is probably going to be more sympathetic than your male boss.

I think if you work in a good company then itll be rare to find women who have massive issues with gender because they will be weeded out as idiots.

If you're working for a good company then Im not sure you would come across a real ball-buster because common sense says theyll just drag everyone down.

It makes sense to have women bosses in some ways because it isnt all about being authoritative, women are somewhat more socially-dynamic than men and in a lot of companies it is all about people skills, with your customers and with your colleagues.

What I have noticed though is that women tend to be middle-management, whereas the higher roles are reserved for men.

[ChopChaeJoe]

Almost to a man, all the dudes I've worked with were sexist pigs, myself included. Sometimes i feel badly for women who have to put up with it without pointing it out. Like Tim Allen says, "men are pigs. It's just too damn bad we own everything."

[drkalbi]

Just stay away from them for about 5 days a month.

[Panda]

This is actually quite a good topic.

I am highly educated, (my parents think) which is more than needed.

About one or two years ago, they stopped feeling tremedously proud of me but started to get worried that I was still single.

40 year old successful single men still go fast as hot cakes.

40 year old auccessful single women are under everybody's x-ray-liked gaze to see if they've got abnormally developed brain or uterus.

Ill tempered male bosses would be called nasty but their female counterparts would be thought nasty and PATHETIC.

One the other hand, work-relationship between a man and a woman could be exactly like an arrange marriage without sex......how often do you think that would go well...

[hellakitty]

Empathy - human quality
Nastiness - human quality
Desperation - human quality
Logic - human quality

I could go on and on, but my point is that all of the characteristics commonly associated with managers/busines people, whatever are charactersitics that both men and women are capable of possesing. Perhaps people need a little lesson on "sex" and "gender".
Sex - do you have a *beep* or a vagina? This determines your sex.
Gender - a socially constructed role in society i.e. capable of change; not static in nature

The longer that people continue to place men and women in separate, out dated, socially constructed boxes, the further away society moves from acceptance and equality. It is plain ridiculous to assert that some charactersitics are inherantly male or female - they may tradionally be seen as male or female but this does no mean that they have to be.

A manager is crappy manager regardless of SEX.

[Sergio Stefanuto]

My honest, straight-up opinion on women is that they are overrated. Female friends and family are great in small doses, but any more than that and they're unbearable. I realize very much that such a view reflects poorly on me, but I 'came out' as a misogynist many years ago and have long since come to terms with it. It's also common enough for me not to feel isolated. Men in all cultures have contempt for women, and there's nothing to be gained by pretending that women themselves aren't partly responsible. If you didn't get on our nerves, we wouldn't oppress you, eh?

[MollyBloom]

Did you watch Boys Over Flowers? Gu Jun Pyo's mother who took over the company was not weak at all.

I relate everything in my life now to K-drama plots.

[The Gipkik]