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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Alex Buffa wrote: |
Where were YOU this morning??? |
Well my location says: "superhero hideout" so if I told you I would have to kill you. |
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Alex Buffa
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Doesn't that go against the code of being a good superhero?
Just curious |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:08 am Post subject: |
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Can anyone top this? At my first college in Korea, one semester I had classes 5 days a week from 9am to 11pm with 1 hour for Lunch and one hour for dinner. I almost died. Or, maybe I did and was too tired to tell.
And, most of those classes had 40-60 students. So, that was 12 hours a day in class 5 days a week.  Is that 60 hours a week??? This is the first time I ever added it up. I know I had over 1000 different students that semester, which was 50% of the entire student pop. |
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Alex Buffa
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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If I did, I'd probably look as stressed out as your avatar chicken.  |
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batman
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Oh so close to where I want to be
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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At my last school, it was common for me to teach from 7am to 12 noon without a break.
Then I would have the afternoon off and come back to teach from 6pm to 9pm.
Actually, I enjoyed the schedule.
All the students were great and I looked forward to each class. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
depends on the students and the system.
2 hours with bad students and a bad system sucks. (not saying you can't overcome it with a lot of work)
6 hours with good students and a good program with a teacher friendly system where you use good materials can be a piece of cake.
this is why teaching at a University is often much more difficult than teaching at a Won Hogger |
Miss Joo, since you've never taught at a univeristy (credit course level, not language center) and you're still teaching the kiddies...
please shut up about university teaching. You have no idea about what you are talking about within this respect. |
Excuse me Alex you don't know my job or my qualifications. You apologist for Korea who can't speak the language you inflates his earnings by not mentioning housing.
At one prestigious University in North East Seoul. They got rid of many teachers because they wanted to change the contract - lower. But then the school could not find any MAs so they had to hire BAs instead . But then they wanted to have the prestige of having MAs so what did they do - On their program bulletin they listed all the teachers with BAs as having MA's. - the magic of the printer.
at the same time
They decided to have an exchange professor program whereby the school would bring in teachers from their sister school in Canada for the purpose of promoting the school . they went there looking for two teachers with MA in TESOL - couldn't find 'em , so they went looking for two teachers BA in TESOL couldn't find them, went looking for MAs couldn't find them, Desperate for teachers they begged a professor to find them a teacher - any teacher so he found two students music majors to teach in Korea - who had never taught before.
The head professor was aware of this but continued to talk up the program as gave an interview in the schools' English language newspaper and continued to refer to them as the exchange professors and exchange scholars from the sister school.
Later the two teachers that they were going to bring in decided not to come at the last moment so the school went out and hired two teachers one of whom was just in Korea teaching privates on a tourist visa.
So much for the exchange professor program. Oh the two new teachers had MA's -but only in the school bulletin.
Teaching at a Univeristy . Many of your freshman are unmotivated and don't want to study. But what is worse is at many universities not only do they not only not let you use the text book you want , they make you use their text book made by them written in Konglish. Of course what counts most is - the student ratings (don't worry I always get good ones). Bad ratings (What you get for giving homework and for deducting points when students are late.) mean one thing - no new contract.
You all who think you are doing so good at the University - Ever heard of hogwonization? You know when they decide to slash two months of vacation and cut the pay by 25%. Hogwonization it could happen to you and probably will.
Remember if you are not getting housing deduct 300- 500,000 from your monthly pay. If you are not getting airfare deduct 100,000 from your monthy pay. For each month less of four that you have to work without being paid additionally during the vacation also deduct 100,000.
Remember hogwonization. -
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Chopstix
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
Location: Nowon Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:58 am Post subject: teaching hours |
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| I am new here and am currently teaching from 9:50 am until 7:30 pm. I teach 10 40 minute classes - kinder to grade 5. I am finding it quite exhausting! I only taught 4 classes a day in Canada. It is very different over here. You definitely get burnt out. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote,
"this is why teaching at a University is often much more difficult than teaching at a Won Hogger"
Would you mind explaining more on this point? Are't Korean universities wonderful places to teach? |
I'm not JRGR, but yes, they are. |
The conditions are much better than most hogwons but the quality of the teaching usually leaves much to be desired.
Just because your Universtity hasn't turned on you yet doesn't mean they won't - just wait awhile. |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| The conditions are much better than most hogwons but the quality of the teaching usually leaves much to be desired. |
True, but not all universities are as dismal as you protray them.
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Just because your Universtity hasn't turned on you yet doesn't mean they won't - just wait awhile. |
don't be so bitter - not everyone is out to get you. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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How long have you been in Korea?
University jobs going bad is not a new thing.
http://seamonkey.ed.asu.edu/~jonb/
Hogwonization - it can happen to you. |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
How long have you been in Korea?
University jobs going bad is not a new thing.
http://seamonkey.ed.asu.edu/~jonb/
Hogwonization - it can happen to you. |
Well, I have been in Korea 5 years. 2 years at one college, 2 years at another college, now, in a university.
AND, this guy knows exactly what he is talking about. I agree 100%. |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
How long have you been in Korea?
University jobs going bad is not a new thing.
http://seamonkey.ed.asu.edu/~jonb/
Hogwonization - it can happen to you. |
7 years, and that link is old news - jaded teachers and not much is updated. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| In the Disney movie Pinocchio went to Pleasure Island he thought he had it great and he did- for a while but then he found out the truth about the place and what it was about. |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| In the Disney movie Pinocchio went to Pleasure Island he thought he had it great and he did- for a while but then he found out the truth about the place and what it was about. |
But I"m not pinnochio, I've been in Korea for 7 years not one night on pleasure island (it's only one night, I know as my daughter watches the video regularly).
Korea is not as bad as you think. It's not all good either. Take your bitterness elsewhere. |
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Alex Buffa
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Joo is full of crap. As for "howganization" of the Universities, I work for an English Dept, not a language center. Vacation time isn't just taken away. We are treated as professionals and are expected to act as such.
Joo has a serious gripe about Korea. The reason I never mentioned housing is because I own my own. I stated my salary since that is the amount I receive via wire transfer to my bank account. I would never believe this woman teaches at a uni, she's so clueless as to the reality of uni teaching that her explanations leave me somewaht suspicious.
She claims to see all these horrible things in Korea, yet she REMAINS there. In a different light, the students at the crapola uni she claims to work at gives her good ratings. So what does this tell me? At best, she gets good ratings from lazy and unmotivated students at trashcan U. Would you place any value on the opinion of what a group of students who have the IQ of a cabbage and tuna fish combined have to say?
Korea can be great if you choose to make it.
Funny thing is that Miss Joo hasn't figured out how to make it happen...then again I enjoy the fact she suffers.
Keep it up Joo!
woohoo! |
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