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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:19 pm    Post subject: Koreans angry about Australian Immigration rules Reply with quote

Australia cinches immigration rules

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2916465

February 10, 2010
Hundreds of Koreans planning to move to Australia were left scrambling to find alternatives this week, after the Australian government tightened its immigration rules and canceled 20,000 applications from hopefuls worldwide.

Immigration Minister Chris Evans Monday criticized the former John Howard government�s immigration policy, saying the country had accepted many cooks and hairdressers but not enough doctors and nurses. He also said changes are focused on giving priority to migrants with higher skills.

�You�ve got to say if they don�t have the English-language skills, don�t have the trade skills and can�t get a job, then really they should not be eligible for permanent residency,� Evans said. �The current points test puts an overseas student with a short-term vocational qualification gained in Australia ahead of a Harvard-educated environmental scientist.�

Evans was referring to vocational schools that teach cooking and hairdressing, among other subjects. Foreign Ministry officials in Seoul said that as of last November, about 11,500 Koreans were attending such institutes hoping to become permanent residents Down Under. An estimated 5,200 Koreans were granted permanent residency from July 2008 to June 2009, the last fiscal year.

According to a Foreign Ministry official, the Australian government said that only about 4 percent of the 20,000 applicants in question were Korean. All application fees will be refunded, a total of about $12 million.

The Korean official said the new policy didn�t appear to be targeting any specific country.

Another official in Seoul said there�s little the Korean government can do for the hopeful emigrants.

�Unless the Australian measure was aimed directly at us, it�s quite difficult for us to get involved in its government�s policy,� the official said.

If anything, Australia may have tried to curb the rise of its Indian population. Agence France-Presse reported that about 117,000 Indian students arrived in Australia in the 12 months prior to October 2009. Over that period, hundreds of Indians were assaulted and robbed, leading to media outrage and charges of racism.

The new policy will likely reduce enrollment at vocational schools but will instead favor applicants who already have job offers.

Australia altered its immigration rules in 2001 so that students at Australian colleges could apply for permanent residency while in school.


By Yoo Jee-ho [[email protected]]
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Australia is getting pretty bad though..Ive heard similar stories about Canada
its not like it use to be back in the 80's..
just getting over populated with immigrants!
once they come they ain't leaving..

something needs to be done...
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ms.catbc



Joined: 11 Jan 2008
Location: Ilsan

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think Canada is getting overpopulated with immigrants.

Canada isn't overpopulated at all. If you've got the money then immigrating to Canada is a hell of lot easier but you need to have $300 000 burning a hole in your bank account and a good business plan. If you are willing to start a business in rural Saskatchewan the provincial government will help you out big time.

If you want to move to Toronto or Vancouver it gets a bit trickier.
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Forever



Joined: 12 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It still isn't difficult to get permanent residency in Australia.

It is much MORE difficult to get permanent residency in Korea.

The OP stated that "Koreans are angry....."

But what have they got to be angry about?

Australia should make it part of their policy that citizens who want permanent residency should speak very good English and want to assimilate with Australian society.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a surprise really, Labor Party is sliding in the polls and that (keeping wogs out) is the standard and popular response for the government on the skids.
Why shouldn't the Koreans be angry? Korean chaebols have invested heavily in Australia. Korea buys a lot of Australia's exports. Koreans want their money's worth.
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Wishmaster



Joined: 06 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When Australians are allowed to immigrate to Korea, then the Koreans can be pissed. As of now, they have absolutely no reason to bitch. It should be reciprocal. If Australians are not allowed to come to Korea and open up shop, why the hell should Koreans be allowed to just waltz into Australia? I swear, Koreans like a rigged game. They can do to us, but we aren't allowed to do to them.

Oh, and I like the part where the one official says that they can't really do anything about the policy unless Koreans are directly targeted. Newsflash, South Korea, you wouldn't be able to do squat even if you were targeted. You have zero influence on what goes on in the Aussie government. Korea sure as hell wouldn't give a crap if the roles were reversed.
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korian



Joined: 26 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe slightly off topic, maybe not. i just returned from a brief sojourn in london with my japanese girlfriend. aside from the great tourist attractions and wicked cold we encountered, the biggest thing we both noticed day in day out, was the incredibly high percentage of people who weren't speaking english.

it is just an observation, not a judgment, but it was incredible that on the tube, in buses, at galleries, on the street, in shops and so forth, i would say that about 60-70% of the people we encountered were not native speakers, and were not speaking english.

the reasons and/or implications i care not to get involved in, but it was really quite a shock to us.
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lichtarbeiter



Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:
Australia is getting pretty bad though..Ive heard similar stories about Canada
its not like it use to be back in the 80's..
just getting over populated with immigrants!
once they come they ain't leaving..

something needs to be done...


I can't speak for Australia but I can tell you that Canada will soon be facing a shortage of labourers because the baby-boomer generation (the most populated generation) is retiring and vacating positions which there will not be enough people to fill them. The government has said it plans on increasing immigration to solve this problem.

In the context of Canada, saying "something needs to be done" doesn't really make any sense. Immigrants coming to Canada tend to mind their own business and not leech off the system.
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Gaber



Joined: 23 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:
Australia is getting pretty bad though..Ive heard similar stories about Canada
its not like it use to be back in the 80's..
just getting over populated with immigrants!
once they come they ain't leaving..

something needs to be done...
Yeah, Australia is really drowning under a massive wave of humanity. You can't drive for a day without passing a dozen cars going the other way, it's getting so bad. Laughing
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wishmaster wrote:
When Australians are allowed to immigrate to Korea, then the Koreans can be pissed. As of now, they have absolutely no reason to bitch. It should be reciprocal. If Australians are not allowed to come to Korea and open up shop, why the hell should Koreans be allowed to just waltz into Australia? I swear, Koreans like a rigged game. They can do to us, but we aren't allowed to do to them.


Exactly! I agree wholeheartedly with this and think it should be the same across the board.
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