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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| I don't understand why I need to be pro Semite all the time. |
You don't. Rant about us damn evil Jews all you like, it doesn't upset me. All I did was highlight it. Why are you getting defensive? Openly profess your anti-Semitism all you care to; it's refreshing to see some honesty from the Jew-hate crowd hereabouts.
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RufusW
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Troll be trolling? |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, I was just kidding. Jeez... |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Check out this poll information for an idea of just how incoherent America is on this topic. 3 key figures:
57% support the repeal of DADT
65% don't feel ending the policy will be divisive or affect our military's ability to fight.
66% think the policy consistutes discrimination.
On the positive side, this implies a fairly strong majority of Americans support the repeal of this policy. On the negative side, it shows that at least 9% of people recognize this is discrimination yet want it to continue, and at least 8% feel this policy has no impact on our soldiers ability to fight and yet want it to continue These are the minimum overlaps between group #1 and group #2 and #3; it's very likely those figures -- which consistute nearly 25% of the population that supported DADT -- are actually substantially larger.
So what we have is a fairly large portion of the American populace who feels DADT is discriminatory, feel it doesn't benefit us in terms of unit cohesion or ability to fight, and yet want to continue with the policy. A fairly large portion of the American populace that literally just wants to discriminate against gays despite believing it has no tangible benefit. A disappointing subpoint in an admittedly overall positive poll. Things are coming around, even if a lot of people are still ridiculously prejudiced and irrational.
Looking at the specific data in the study, it seems the people most in favor of DADT are Evangelicals, Protestants, and the college uneducated, while the people least in favor are Jews, Catholics, and the college educated. As household income increased, tendency to support DADT also decreased. |
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Street Magic
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:08 am Post subject: |
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I'm not looking forward to more gay rights as newly assigned rights provide proof of victim status and victim status provides ascendancy to the elite victim class and all of the stardom, glamour and power that comes with it.
We agree that gays were treated the same as blacks and therefore they are entitled to own all white people for 500 years and they, like blacks will sit and do nothing for pretty much eternity until The Debt is paid.
In the meantime and I just get more conscious hustlers like Jews who try to own the world with Holocaust rememberence (Rep Grayson, Republican healthcare = Holocaust) Liberals (Ya-ta boy "Remember The Deep South During The 1960's) and blacks who finally granted enough freedom and dignity to elect an ineffective and unremarkable man who is black to the president's office.
Gays will be genuine bogarts at the trough of victimhood and I really am not looking forward to it. |
If you'd like to read a more coherent and thoughtful version of your philosophy on "victomhood" and civil rights issues, I'd recommend Industrial Society and Its Future. I mean, as long as you're pulling out all the stops on the whole intentionally offensive bit, you might as well polish up the backing rhetoric. Here's an excerpt:
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| Many leftists have an intense identification with the problems of groups that have an image of being weak (women), defeated (American Indians), repellent (homosexuals) or otherwise inferior. The leftists themselves feel that these groups are inferior. They would never admit to themselves that they have such feelings, but it is precisely because they do see these groups as inferior that they identify with their problems. (We do not mean to suggest that women, Indians, etc. are inferior; we are only making a point about leftist psychology.) |
(The M. Night Shyamalan twist is that the author happens to be the Unabomber) |
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rocket_scientist
Joined: 23 Nov 2009
Location: Prague
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Fox,
I accept your survey as valid but I'm not sure what you are trying to do with it but I assume you present it for general persuasion. Thats fine.
r_s
| Fox wrote: |
Check out this poll information for an idea of just how incoherent America is on this topic. 3 key figures:
57% support the repeal of DADT
65% don't feel ending the policy will be divisive or affect our military's ability to fight.
66% think the policy consistutes discrimination.
On the positive side, this implies a fairly strong majority of Americans support the repeal of this policy. On the negative side, it shows that at least 9% of people recognize this is discrimination yet want it to continue, and at least 8% feel this policy has no impact on our soldiers ability to fight and yet want it to continue These are the minimum overlaps between group #1 and group #2 and #3; it's very likely those figures -- which consistute nearly 25% of the population that supported DADT -- are actually substantially larger.
So what we have is a fairly large portion of the American populace who feels DADT is discriminatory, feel it doesn't benefit us in terms of unit cohesion or ability to fight, and yet want to continue with the policy. A fairly large portion of the American populace that literally just wants to discriminate against gays despite believing it has no tangible benefit. A disappointing subpoint in an admittedly overall positive poll. Things are coming around, even if a lot of people are still ridiculously prejudiced and irrational.
Looking at the specific data in the study, it seems the people most in favor of DADT are Evangelicals, Protestants, and the college uneducated, while the people least in favor are Jews, Catholics, and the college educated. As household income increased, tendency to support DADT also decreased. |
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Old Gil
Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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There are a lot of gays in the interpretation services because interpretation is considered a girlish and effete profession. Gays are girlish and effete. And catty and self absorbed and vain and attention hungry. They also don't have to follow rules that apply to everyone else because of how special they are.
All who oppose are Third Reich. You know what, I kind of like the Third Reich. Those were good times. |
So if gays are non combat, like 75% of the Army, how does the 'low morale' argument hold up?
Also, you're either a psycho or doing inscrutably not-funny satiring. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| or doing inscrutably not-funny satiring. |
You have to cut newbie trolls some slack. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
Check out this poll information for an idea of just how incoherent America is on this topic. 3 key figures:
57% support the repeal of DADT
65% don't feel ending the policy will be divisive or affect our military's ability to fight.
66% think the policy consistutes discrimination.
On the positive side, this implies a fairly strong majority of Americans support the repeal of this policy. On the negative side, it shows that at least 9% of people recognize this is discrimination yet want it to continue, and at least 8% feel this policy has no impact on our soldiers ability to fight and yet want it to continue These are the minimum overlaps between group #1 and group #2 and #3; it's very likely those figures -- which consistute nearly 25% of the population that supported DADT -- are actually substantially larger.
So what we have is a fairly large portion of the American populace who feels DADT is discriminatory, feel it doesn't benefit us in terms of unit cohesion or ability to fight, and yet want to continue with the policy. A fairly large portion of the American populace that literally just wants to discriminate against gays despite believing it has no tangible benefit. A disappointing subpoint in an admittedly overall positive poll. Things are coming around, even if a lot of people are still ridiculously prejudiced and irrational.
Looking at the specific data in the study, it seems the people most in favor of DADT are Evangelicals, Protestants, and the college uneducated, while the people least in favor are Jews, Catholics, and the college educated. As household income increased, tendency to support DADT also decreased. |
http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2010/02/the-importance-of-marketing.html |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
Check out this poll information for an idea of just how incoherent America is on this topic. 3 key figures:
57% support the repeal of DADT
65% don't feel ending the policy will be divisive or affect our military's ability to fight.
66% think the policy consistutes discrimination.
On the positive side, this implies a fairly strong majority of Americans support the repeal of this policy. On the negative side, it shows that at least 9% of people recognize this is discrimination yet want it to continue, and at least 8% feel this policy has no impact on our soldiers ability to fight and yet want it to continue These are the minimum overlaps between group #1 and group #2 and #3; it's very likely those figures -- which consistute nearly 25% of the population that supported DADT -- are actually substantially larger.
So what we have is a fairly large portion of the American populace who feels DADT is discriminatory, feel it doesn't benefit us in terms of unit cohesion or ability to fight, and yet want to continue with the policy. A fairly large portion of the American populace that literally just wants to discriminate against gays despite believing it has no tangible benefit. A disappointing subpoint in an admittedly overall positive poll. Things are coming around, even if a lot of people are still ridiculously prejudiced and irrational.
Looking at the specific data in the study, it seems the people most in favor of DADT are Evangelicals, Protestants, and the college uneducated, while the people least in favor are Jews, Catholics, and the college educated. As household income increased, tendency to support DADT also decreased. |
http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2010/02/the-importance-of-marketing.html |
If you ask the average puritanical American about people who have sex ("homosexual") versus "happy" people ("gay men and lesbians"), the latter group will always fare better. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
Check out this poll information for an idea of just how incoherent America is on this topic. 3 key figures:
57% support the repeal of DADT
65% don't feel ending the policy will be divisive or affect our military's ability to fight.
66% think the policy consistutes discrimination.
On the positive side, this implies a fairly strong majority of Americans support the repeal of this policy. On the negative side, it shows that at least 9% of people recognize this is discrimination yet want it to continue, and at least 8% feel this policy has no impact on our soldiers ability to fight and yet want it to continue These are the minimum overlaps between group #1 and group #2 and #3; it's very likely those figures -- which consistute nearly 25% of the population that supported DADT -- are actually substantially larger.
So what we have is a fairly large portion of the American populace who feels DADT is discriminatory, feel it doesn't benefit us in terms of unit cohesion or ability to fight, and yet want to continue with the policy. A fairly large portion of the American populace that literally just wants to discriminate against gays despite believing it has no tangible benefit. A disappointing subpoint in an admittedly overall positive poll. Things are coming around, even if a lot of people are still ridiculously prejudiced and irrational.
Looking at the specific data in the study, it seems the people most in favor of DADT are Evangelicals, Protestants, and the college uneducated, while the people least in favor are Jews, Catholics, and the college educated. As household income increased, tendency to support DADT also decreased. |
http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2010/02/the-importance-of-marketing.html |
That's simply disturbing. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| So I guess it's true what they say about the military: Join the Army, feel a man. Join the Navy, feel as many as you want. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
Check out this poll information for an idea of just how incoherent America is on this topic. 3 key figures:
57% support the repeal of DADT
65% don't feel ending the policy will be divisive or affect our military's ability to fight.
66% think the policy consistutes discrimination.
On the positive side, this implies a fairly strong majority of Americans support the repeal of this policy. On the negative side, it shows that at least 9% of people recognize this is discrimination yet want it to continue, |
If only 9% of Americans want antigay discrimination to continue, we have made amazing progress towards tolerance. |
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