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rocket_scientist



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:32 am    Post subject: These liberals did a competent job Reply with quote

I don't agree with the message but administratively they did a fine job and I am envious.


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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/09/anti-tea-party-web-site-scheme-funnel-funds/



Pretty clever! Sure beats living on eggs, oranges and soap bar and living in a cold damp Moroccan hostel.
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Fox



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, this would be a lot easier to pass off as legitimate journalism if it were investigating the pattern of behavior in general rather than focusing on liberal usage of it. The article itself admits that this kind of thing happens constantly, yet Fox News seems particularly and uniquely concerned with liberal engagement in it.

Just more proof Fox News isn't news at all, but rather the PR branch of the Republican Party. Far too easy to see through.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
Yeah, this would be a lot easier to pass off as legitimate journalism if it were investigating the pattern of behavior in general rather than focusing on liberal usage of it. The article itself admits that this kind of thing happens constantly, yet Fox News seems particularly and uniquely concerned with liberal engagement in it.

Just more proof Fox News isn't news at all, but rather the PR branch of the Republican Party. Far too easy to see through.


Hi Fox,

I'm not certain what to do about fighting media bias, I just accept that media in general = liberals and Foxnews = republicans. I don't think you added anything new. Again, I really don't what to do next.

As far as the NYTimes is concerned, I work to have it removed as America's paper of record.

In another post you mentioned a survey and I wasn't sure how to respond
and then I thought I should investigate the source and then discredit the source but your source was not The NYTimes but some survey company that I'm sure is biased but I didn't have the energy to investigate. I reviewed the findings and accepted the data. The NYTimes also did one of these surveys and got similar results. So the results are just one big conspired lie or the results are the truth.

I'm at a crossroads of American thought. You mention a survey and its associated credibility. I have survey like data but the data comes from repeated referendums on Gay marriage where proponents have lost yet these results are certainly rejected by liberals. You challenged the results
in a liberal bent court and found a gay judge to preside. Thats pretty clever.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rocket_scientist wrote:
I just accept that media in general = liberals and Foxnews = republicans.


Here we go again. When confronted with the incredibly biased nature of Fox News, the typical conservative responds by trying to balance it against other media sources. But those "other media sources" are no where near as bad as Fox News. They exhibit minor to moderate bias at worst; nothing compared to the utter deluge of bias flowing out of Fox News. If the "liberal media" were anywhere near as aggressive, biased, and distortive as Fox News, media coverage during the Bush Presdiency would have been far different. Indeed, news coverage right now would be different; the media is still giving Republicans far, far, far too easy a time on their blatant lies and obstructionism.

Is there bias in most news? Sure. Is it anywhere near as intense, blatant, and propagandistic as Fox News? No way.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess we disagree Fox and thats fine. CBS didn't really have a bias, they just fabricated information about GWB. NYTimes is more concerned about PC than journalism and we all have suffer Jayson Blair journalism.

I understand your assertion.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rocket_scientist wrote:
I guess we disagree Fox and thats fine. CBS didn't really have a bias, they just fabricated information about GWB. NYTimes is more concerned about PC than journalism and we all have suffer Jayson Blair journalism.

I understand your assertion.


Given you're incorrectly construing my assertion as, "Other media is totally bias-free and perfect," rather than, "Other media have bias, but that bias is no where near as blatantly excessive as what is present in Fox News," no, you clearly don't understand my assertion. Or, you understand my assertion and are deliberately trying to mischaracterize my case. Doesn't really matter which it is.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your assertion is that all media is biased but Fox is the worst and must be silenced and then I will have to submit to an eternity of liberal bias because the NYTimes bias is conducted in an acceptable way.

This is your assertion.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rocket_scientist wrote:
Your assertion is that all media is biased but Fox is the worst and must be silenced ...


There you go strawmanning again. Yes, Fox News is the worst. No, they need not be silenced; they might produce propaganda that caters to gullible fools, but they have the right to do so.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
rocket_scientist wrote:
Your assertion is that all media is biased but Fox is the worst and must be silenced ...


There you go strawmanning again. Yes, Fox News is the worst. No, they need not be silenced; they might produce propaganda that caters to gullible fools, but they have the right to do so.


Don't waste your time, Fox. He either is an ESL person trying to provoke, or someone with a low IQ. Either way, not worth your time.
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