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mises
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| Okay, so since you think that the only effective program would be to either kick out all Muslims from Europe, or at least not allow any more in, is it your contention that the minaret ban is useful because it's the first step toward legitimizing those particular immigration policy goals? |
My fuss with this issue isn't with Europe being less European but with Europe falling into a deep pit (again) of conflict. I don't care about the mineret ban. I see it as a product of the times. The immigration issue will come on its own terms as permanently high unemployment and collapsing revenue for the welfare state force the hands of the various governments.
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| And re: Greece and Turkey.. |
They swapped populations, and yes, Greeks to Greece etc. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Is this for real? How bizarre is this? Can someone please refute this story?
Swiss Politician Bans Minarets then Converts to Islam
Daniel Streich Embraces Islam
Feb 2, 2010 Faisal Hanif
The Swiss politician Daniel Streich, who rose to fame as a result of his opposition to mosques in his homeland, has now embraced the faith he reviled.
Daniel Streich was a member of then Swiss People's Party (SVP) in Switzerland. A well-known politician, Streich led the calls for a ban on minarets across Switzerland. He was active in building anti-Muslim sentiments throughout Switzerland. This sustained campaign led to him being given a high ranking position in the Swiss Army.
SVP Witch Hunt
Streich left the SVP in November 2009 calling his party's campaign against Islam as a 'witch hunt.' The date coincided with the second anniversary of Streich's conversion which he had kept secret from the party.
With the party's campaign to ban minarets leading to a referendum, Streich said the situation had become unbearable for him. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:13 am Post subject: |
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The Tikkun blog argues that the significance of this conversion is being exaggerated somewhat.
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The story, based upon a report in the Swiss media, first appeared in the English language at Tikkun Daily on December 4, 2009, with an immediate cross-posting on Op-Ed News. After the story broke, it started getting some circulation on Muslim blogs and news aggregation sites. On January 30, 2010, the Pakistani paper The Nation publicized it on its website � with a lot of embellishments. It depicted Streich as a very big, major Swiss politician who specialized in campaigning against Muslims and minarets! After allegedly spreading tons of anti-Muslim propaganda, he had a sudden conversion and now renounced his evil ways:
RENOWNED Swiss politician Daniel Streich, who rose to fame for his campaign against minarets of mosques, has embraced Islam. A member of the Swiss People�s Party (SVP) and a well-known politician, Daniel Streich was the first man who had launched a drive for imposition of ban on mosques minarets, and to lock the mosques in Switzerland. The proclamation of Streich�s conversion to Islam has created furore (sic) in Swiss politics, besides causing a tremor for those who supported ban on construction of mosques minarets. Streich propagated his anti-Islamic movement far and wide in the country, sowed seeds of indignation and scorn for Islam among the people, and paved way for public opinion against pulpits and minarets of mosques. But now Streich has become a soldier of Islam. His anti-Islam thoughts finally brought him so close to this religion that he embraced Islam. He is ashamed of his doings now and desires to construct the most beautiful mosque of Europe in Switzerland. (Full text here).
This is a complete fabrication. Streich happened to belong to a political party that had a wide-ranging political platform, dealing with much more than �minarets of mosques.� Streich did not �rise to fame� on the basis of Islamophobia. And there is no evidence that he�s planning to build any mosque, beautiful or not.
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I suspect that Striech is just one of those "lost sheep" who wanders around looking for an ideological home. You can find lots of examples of that sort of thing in politics.
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Hundreds of years ago, some of the locals there probably complained about the importation and spread of a foreign religion called Christianity. This is just history repeating itself. |
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