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Foreigner salary versus Korean teacher salary
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ChrisHannah



Joined: 20 Jun 2008
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:46 pm    Post subject: Foreigner salary versus Korean teacher salary Reply with quote

Anybody out there know what the typical Korean gets paid at an English hagwon? I know it varies greatly, but sometimes I feel like my co-workers resent my salary, but it's unsubstantiated because I simply have no clue about theirs. FYI, I get 2.3m.
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nobbyken



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suppose it differs for experienced hagwon teachers, but the figure of 1.5 is in head as a typical starting pay.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your starting salary is higher.
However, they have greater opportunities for advancement and raises. (hagwon and public school both)

They have no reason to resent you or your salary.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nobbyken wrote:
Suppose it differs for experienced hagwon teachers, but the figure of 1.5 is in head as a typical starting pay.


Hagwons it can be anywhere between 1 million to over 3 million. i know a couple which are approaching 4 but they are in management and they work for the money
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their salary is completely irrelevant to your salary as yours is completely irrelevant to theirs. You and they have different duties and different qualifications for different jobs. If the resentment is based on you getting paid what you get paid because of your being a native English speaker, then the person resenting that is just being irrational. Take your pick: 1-ignore the irrelevant resentment or 2-ignore the irrational resentment.
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tommo123456789



Joined: 31 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At my school, the K Teachers get paid 10,000 won per class taught. Each year they stay, they get a 500 won raise for each class. They also get a bonus every 6 months.. not sure how much though..
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get 2.8 she gets 1.7

Parents send them to the hagwon for you not them generally.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite some dustups, I've always had excellent relationships with my hagwon co-teachers and never felt like income was relevent, and I make more than you do.
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eho



Joined: 02 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
You and they have different duties and different qualifications for different jobs.


Could you elaborate on this piece? I'm interested to know what Koreans are supposed to be doing in their classrooms.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eho wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
You and they have different duties and different qualifications for different jobs.


Could you elaborate on this piece? I'm interested to know what Koreans are supposed to be doing in their classrooms.


Along with teaching, the Korean teachers are responsible for various other duties, to include, homeroom, career counselor, department head, among others. That's for the public schools. For the hagweons, the Korean staff are responsible for recruiting students, dealing with "the mothers," and other administrative issues.

Again, different jobs than what the weoneomin have.
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:

They have no reason to resent you or your salary.


....but they still tend to. It took me several conversations on this before i got the coworkers to see my side. Basically they think that Foreign teachers:

a) Aren't qualified
b) Have it easy because we're just speaking our own language
c) Are lucky to get free accomodation and flight

I consistently point out:

a) We don't get raises or promotions
b) We often teach the most hours of all the staff in the school
c) We generally have a difficult time living in a foreign culture away from our families etc and have to put up with cultural problems
d) We don't get new year and chusok bonuses
e) We have to work every holiday doing camps

School staff aside, many ordinary Koreans think that we:

1) Earn about 5M a month on average
2) Drink and party constantly
3) Live in some sort of paradise
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eho wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
You and they have different duties and different qualifications for different jobs.


Could you elaborate on this piece? I'm interested to know what Koreans are supposed to be doing in their classrooms.




For PS
They teach national curriculm. Are responsible for their students completing the school year successfully. They have to design lesson plans that allow them to reach national curriculum objectives at the end of each year.

They deal with parents, grade, have to offer extra activities (study groups).

For Hakwons
They deal with parents. Have to organise extra activities. Deal with administration in a way no foreign teacher is required to.
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curiousaboutkorea



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my Korean friends is an English hagwon teacher. She was pouting about how foreigners get paid more and said it's not fair. I asked how far she had to move to take her job. She stopped complaining.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So some of the Koreans think we foreigners aren't qualified for our task-specific job? Big deal. How many of their degrees would qualify them for education credentials in our home countries? For that matter, how many of them could pass the credentialing process? After all, most places I'm aware of in my country would not permit the usual Korean method of classroom control.
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brier



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends where the Korean teacher is working. If it is at a hogwon, he or she will most likely make less, some much much less. If it is at a public school and she is fresh out of school hershelf, about the same. If she is an older teacher with 20, 25 years in the system, much much more. Korean public school teachers are some of the highest paid school teachers in the world.
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