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The olympic luger who died
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its going on. First run was done: http://www.vancouver2010.com/olympic-luge/schedule-and-results/mens-singles-run-1_lgm010101mA.html
Everybody finished. Only one person didn't start.
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D-Man



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard that the track was designed mainly by German luge dudes.

The Germans are one of the best luging/sledding nations in both men's and women's luge/bobsleigh/skeleton.They design a lot of the tracks worldwide

I guess the"3 year degree guy" feels really clever now.... Rolling Eyes
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supernick



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I heard that the track was designed mainly by German luge dudes.

The Germans are one of the best luging/sledding nations in both men's and women's luge/bobsleigh/skeleton.They design a lot of the tracks worldwide

I guess the"3 year degree guy" feels really clever now....


It still amazes me how some guys try to portray a whole country as substandard while revealing their own ignorance.

The Germans do design many of these runs and rollercoasters, but it is up to each individual country to ensure that they are safe.
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like lugers can't die without going off the course. Come on. I'll bet most tracks around the world are designed similarly.
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The Cosmic Hum



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
Like lugers can't die without going off the course. Come on. I'll bet most tracks around the world are designed similarly.


...not sure what your post is getting at....can't die without going off?...but if the other courses are similar...then it seems people dying on them would be part and parcel with the sport...is this the case...it doesn't seem to be that popular a sport...but how many people have died on these courses before?

...remembering that Olympic diver who hit his head and died...no one was holding the diving board construction responsible for that...but not sure that is the case here...though it well could be if this is a put-your-life-at-stake-every-time-you-compete kind of sport.

...though I have a suspicion that regardless how the courses have been constructed in the past....they will be held to a higher level of safety precautions in the future...that kind of media coverage is hard to ignore.
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lichtarbeiter



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: The olympic luger who died Reply with quote

I find it amusing that there is a near-unanimous consensus among luge coaches and experts that driver error was the cause of the crash and that such an accident is unbelievably rare, yet we have all these new armchair luge experts sprouting with their 20/20 hindsight acting like they know everything about deficiencies in the track.
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:30 am    Post subject: Re: The olympic luger who died Reply with quote

lichtarbeiter wrote:
I find it amusing that there is a near-unanimous consensus among luge coaches and experts that driver error was the cause of the crash and that such an accident is unbelievably rare, yet we have all these new armchair luge experts sprouting with their 20/20 hindsight acting like they know everything about deficiencies in the track.


We never want to blame the dead..
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The Cosmic Hum



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:28 am    Post subject: Re: The olympic luger who died Reply with quote

lichtarbeiter wrote:
I find it amusing that there is a near-unanimous consensus among luge coaches and experts that driver error was the cause of the crash and that such an accident is unbelievably rare, yet we have all these new armchair luge experts sprouting with their 20/20 hindsight acting like they know everything about deficiencies in the track.

...while not amusing...it is not so much that the accident was or wasn't driver error...but the death?
It seems pretty obvious those posts could have been padded...I don't think I alone in thinking that...but as you point out...certainly not qualified to define safety standards for Olympic luge events.
Then again...most of us are posting after watching that video...maybe with too much emotion...not enough objective education on the subject.
You are making a good point...something to think about.
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BriTunes



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:17 am    Post subject: Re: The olympic luger who died Reply with quote

If by universal consensus you mean the Canadian douchebag coach, then yeah. In non-3-year degree countries, consensus means "most peoples' opinions" which in this case "blame" is being put sqarely on Canadian morality in refusing other countries practice time. Sure, if you want to skew things to your advantage to maybe squeeze out an extra Bronze as host, in speed skating or something, fine. But refusing practice time to counties in a potentially deadly sport, well, that's sick and twisted.


http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/james-lawton-vancouverrsquos-quick-descent-from-high-ground-1899592.html

lichtarbeiter wrote:
I find it amusing that there is a near-unanimous consensus among luge coaches and experts that driver error was the cause of the crash and that such an accident is unbelievably rare, yet we have all these new armchair luge experts sprouting with their 20/20 hindsight acting like they know everything about deficiencies in the track.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:26 am    Post subject: Re: The olympic luger who died Reply with quote

BriTunes wrote:
In non-3-year degree countries,


WTF do you keep going on about?
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BriTunes



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:53 am    Post subject: Re: The olympic luger who died Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
BriTunes wrote:
In non-3-year degree countries,


WTF do you keep going on about?


do I really need to make a smiley face emoticon? Let's ignore the 3-year Quebec degree comments and focus on the fact that Canada refused practice time for "foreigners," eh? Resulting in the death of a guy who was very afraid of the course because of the lack of allow practice time. Wow, u guys are more sensitive than Koreans. Would hate to meet a Canadian-Korean, eh?
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:49 am    Post subject: Re: The olympic luger who died Reply with quote

BriTunes wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
BriTunes wrote:
In non-3-year degree countries,


WTF do you keep going on about?


do I really need to make a smiley face emoticon? Let's ignore the 3-year Quebec degree comments and focus on the fact that Canada refused practice time for "foreigners," eh? Resulting in the death of a guy who was very afraid of the course because of the lack of allow practice time. Wow, u guys are more sensitive than Koreans. Would hate to meet a Canadian-Korean, eh?


He was practicing when he died. How would more future practice time have saved him?

If he died on his first run we could have promised him weeks of practice time and it would have done nothing.
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BriTunes



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's so awesome to keep blaming the dead guy--so awesome and cool. So you think the training methods are the same whether it's two days before the event, as oppopsed to two months before the event? Your statement may be the dumbest one I've ever read on the Internet. Ever. Wow.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: The olympic luger who died Reply with quote

BriTunes wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
BriTunes wrote:
In non-3-year degree countries,


WTF do you keep going on about?


Let's ignore the 3-year Quebec degree comments


well then, why make it? Are you simply trolling to try to get a rise out out people?

Why bother bringing it up at all?
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BriTunes



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke?wasRedirected=true

for that place we get a bunch of our comedians from, not too quick on the uptake (though the peccant dead guy demonstrates that in technicolor).
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