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Would you just TALK?!!!!!! Say ANYTHING!
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Radius



Joined: 20 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulFinn wrote:
You! Not again! Laughing Do you ever post anything that doesn't have to do with women/relationships? No, I guess you don't. Laughing

Dear Radius, I decided to write to you about one important thing. Life can be so much more than the endless pursue for sneezing your babyseeds through your urethra opening. That's all I have to say. Laughing


SeoulFinn


PS. I do admire your effort to get *beep*. I really do. Good luck with it!

lmao love ya too! Razz
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wuzza



Joined: 02 May 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of the people in this country of dating age weren't able to travel much growing up, have been indoctrinated into certain ways of thinking, and most of all have been encouraged to go along with the crowd and avoid being opinionated.
While this can be true of people everywhere, I have found it especially among Korean women (and men) here.
She could be waiting to see if you guys are possible marriage material before she really opens up to you.

Also, no matter how good her English is, she's probably nervous about it. Try making a fool of yourself speaking some Korean and she might talk up a bit more when she sees she doesn't have to be "perfect".
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ACT III



Joined: 14 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad idea- just whip it out and see what happens. I think there was a sienfeld episode about that for reference.

Better idea- when the date is going badly ask her if she would like to go to a DVD room.

Even better idea- ask her to first drink soju then go to a Norae bang. That way at least something will happen. Discussing anything in someones second language on a first date is a bad idea. Do something.

Best idea- group of friends first. That is more in line with how things are done in Korea. Then it will evolve into eithier lots of drinking than a norae bang or more drinking. The one on one date is only reserved for girls you've already played a game of 007 or titanic or some other drinking game. That's my humble opinion.
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ca86108



Joined: 04 Jan 2010
Location: Seoul (Geumcheon-Gu)

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive been in similar situations with chicks in the states.. but just take them to a bar.. once they get a little liquid courage in them they yap away like there is no tomorrow
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tall_dave



Joined: 02 Nov 2009
Location: Songtan, S. Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you just TALK?!!!!!! Say ANYTHING! Reply with quote

nautilus wrote:
Radius wrote:

I mean, im a hakwon monkey edutainer all day, then on top of that i have to be one on dates?


Many Korean women expect you to entertain them. Not really sure why. After a while you get tired of this and stop bothering. Thats when you find ones that like you just as you are.

This is why I keep saying...forget the dating column advice on hw to be funny and challenging etc...and just be yourself.


I'd have to disagree with you on this one. I don't think they expect anything at all. The truth of the matter is she's probably scared to say anything. Many Koreans can speak GREAT in a classroom environment but get them in a real world where there is no "script" to follow about how they should behave or what they should talk about and they are lost. The OP of this thread sounds nervous as well and is scrambling to entertain, when that should not be his role. (He's trying too hard) The best thing to talk about is what you know best, Yourself. If it's advice you are looking for, look within and tell the girl about you. It does not have to be anything super interesting, just basic stuff. Tell her about your most embarrassing moment and ask about hers. Tell hear about the time you went camping or about how what you had to go through to become a teacher and make it to Korea, or why you decided to come here. Don't compliment her more than one time and keep it small. The idea here is to get her talking. Ask her about a piece of jewelry she's wearing. where she got it, what she likes, etc. See her as a partner or someone on your team, rather that someone above you, waiting to be entertained. It's not rocket science so keep it simple.
If you can cook, make her some food. Find out what she likes...slowly. Go for a walk and stay away from the NON interactive dating ideas (movies, etc)


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beercanman



Joined: 16 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good words dave. If she has lived abroad it helps.
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madtownhustl



Joined: 04 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've ran into girls who don't talk very much. Very boring and annoying.. Try NOT talking. Its actually not as uncomfortable as it sounds.... There also is that point where you can ask TOO many questions and the girl starts to get annoyed. Just be yourself and dont be afraid to not talk. The girl will break the silence, if you can hold out.
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

because most of them are social retards!
its the culture! but... once they get to know you then they will play the girlfriend card.. and then you can't stop the F*&King whining!
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP how long are you here for? Life? Do you really a sweet nice girl to spend your days with? If she doesn't drink, well, move on. Unless you're wife shopping. There are plenty of girls who just want to have fun and fun is not a euphemism for 'sex' either. It seems like there's a ton of girls who are in between jobs, 'taking a rest', or whatever, who are just looking for something exciting to do. Keep at it.
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gakduki



Joined: 16 Jul 2009
Location: Passed out on line 2 going in circles

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radius, read some books on how to communicate? Try asking her some questions that cannot be answered with a one word reply. If you know anything about this country or women in general, ask them questions about things they usually talk about. When they answer, ask them a related question and soon you two will be sharring stories, interview is over. Ask them about clothes, favorite places in town to shop or go out, brother's, sisters, friends, blood trype, what they like to do.
Korean girls can have a lack of personality at times, but everybody can be taken out of their shell. Just get them interested, tell them general funny stories, and engage them.
A lack of English is not a problem, I've been on many sucessful dates unable to speak a few hundred words in a common language. JUST SLOW DOWN! maybe bring a note pad. Talk about simple things and you will be speaking the language of love in just a few more dates.
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tall_dave



Joined: 02 Nov 2009
Location: Songtan, S. Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gakduki wrote:
Radius, try asking her some questions that cannot be answered with a one word reply.

And if all else fails, use this in a search on Google: "conversation topics for a date" Follow any of the links there and voila... you're welcome... Wink
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J Rock



Joined: 17 Jan 2009
Location: The center of the Earth, Suji

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="ACT III"]Bad idea- just whip it out and see what happens. I think there was a sienfeld episode about that for reference.

Is this really a bad idea? Probably yes! Is this idea hilarious? Even more so. My cousin told me a story about how he took some girls back home after the bar and tried this method and they got up and walked out in disgust. I was like what did you expect, but to this day I still think it's the funniest stories he ever told me because I totally believe he is the type that would do something like this. Keep in mind he lays carpet for a living and hasn't had a license in 8 years because of DUIs. MY hero!
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stevieg4ever



Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Location: London, England

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the disproportionate number of guys with gold and platinum accounts compared to women on Koreancupid is astounding. a lot of competition out there.

I am sure some of us have been doubling up on these girls. some of the accounts on this thread are almost a replica of what I went through. dated one who was with a canadian 14 years her senior lol and asked me to go to New York with her on the second date.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this silence issue my first year in Korea, but once I was able to find common ground it's been fun ever since. Start simple, make jokes, and ask questions. If it doesn't move on from there, you're with a deadbeat.

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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kabrams wrote:
Why do people always go out for coffee on dates? If you barely know the person...you're not going to have anything to talk about. (This is just a general comment, not really toward the OP).

Active dates are so much better, because you actually "go through" something together and have made a memory/something to talk about, haha.


Yeah...figuring out if you and your date have things in common through 'talking' is so wrong. Just go to a movie, show up 20 seconds before it starts showing, leaver right after. No talking but great memories of being the same place at the same time. Laughing
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