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lost at sea



Joined: 27 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:04 am    Post subject: How do split shifts work? Reply with quote

I was looking at this job posting:

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Location:GwangJin Gu, Seoul
Starting Date :March 8th
Teaching target :adults
Working Hours :6am-12am/4-10pm (mwf) 6:30am-9am/4-10pm(tt)
# of Foreign teachers:5
Monthly salary : 2.1~
Housing :single



Those are some incredible daily hours. Do you work both blocks or do the blocks rotate between teachers? 12 hours a day is a bit much.

Thanks
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conrad2



Joined: 05 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are some horrendous hours if its as advertised. You need to ask the specific school.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTF?!?! That school already has 5 foreign teacher?! No way! Where could you find 5 idiots willing to work that kind of split shift. Even if you're living in the same building as the school, you'd still have to get up at 5:30am to be ready for the 6:30am start. At best 6:15 (if you come to work in your PJs, unshaved and uncaffeinated). AND you'll be going to bed at 11pm. So at most, you're looking at 7 hours of sleep. And when do you go out to have fun? During the middle of the day? Not unless all your friends are also working a split shift and your boss doesn't mind you coming back for evening classes with a nice aroma of booze on you.

Where did you see it advertised? What's the site link or the recruiter?
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lost at sea



Joined: 27 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was on the list of jobs here on Dave's. I was looking at a bunch of adult gigs, and that one was tucked in one of those recruiters that list a whole bunch of schools. I don't recall the specific one Confused

I thought those hours were insane. I can see if you teach only one block (6 hours) per day, but 2 blocks per day, per person? Only if you have a death wish.
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Cerberus



Joined: 29 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lost at sea wrote:
It was on the list of jobs here on Dave's. I was looking at a bunch of adult gigs, and that one was tucked in one of those recruiters that list a whole bunch of schools. I don't recall the specific one Confused

I thought those hours were insane. I can see if you teach only one block (6 hours) per day, but 2 blocks per day, per person? Only if you have a death wish.


unfortunately, 2 blocks, aka a split shift is par for the course if you're going to teach adults. These hours are particularly nasty.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The advertised hours represent availability. It doesn't mean you have to be there all those hours. They just want to be able to change the schedule at the last minute within those hours.

The important thing to look at here is the number of TOTAL teaching hours. As long as you don't mind a schedule that changes week to week, it's not that bad. You can do stuff between the hours that you don't teach. At a public school you are locked up basically from 8:30-4:30 pm, and even though you only teach 22 hours out of 40, they expect you to stay at the school when you don't teach. At a hagwon, it's different. They don't want you around when you aren't teaching.
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naturegirl321



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Home sweet home

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifeinkorea wrote:
At a hagwon, it's different. They don't want you around when you aren't teaching.


Why is that?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is means is that you could be asked to work any 5-6 classes within that working day. You may end up with 6 classes starting at 6am and spaced 2 hours apart until closing time.

It is true that with most hakwons, since you are paid by the class, you do NOT have to be in the school when not teaching.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
lifeinkorea wrote:
At a hagwon, it's different. They don't want you around when you aren't teaching.


Why is that?


At rural hagwons, they teach math and science in the same rooms (due to lack of space). So, there is nowhere for you to be. You would just be getting in the way.

If you are in the city, then you are likely to just sit at the computer instead of doing anything meaningful. It's best you just leave and not crowd the teacher's room unless you are getting ready to teach.

Since it's in our favor to not be there, I have never challenged them on this. In fact 2 hagwons I worked at didn't schedule Friday classes. So, I worked 1 more class than usual Monday-Thursday. I ended up having 3 day weekends. They would teach other subjects on Fridays, and the second hagwon had 7th Day Adventists who taught before me. They refused to teach after sunset, so the school decided to not schedule them.

When I came with new owners, they told me I would eventually have to teach Fridays but for the time being they would use the same schedule since that was what parents already scheduled for their children.
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