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tall_dave

Joined: 02 Nov 2009 Location: Songtan, S. Korea
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject: Ever seen a flying saucer/space ship/UFO? |
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Have any of you ever seen a space ship (not from this world)? I'm doing some personal research on the matter and would like to hear your true stories.
I have not seen one but I believe alien life exists and visitors from other planets are HERE among us, in Korea even.
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Deep Thirteen
Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Location: Swamp Land
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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kentucker4 would be all over this if he were still here. |
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CapnSamwise
Joined: 11 Jan 2010
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I was abducted for a whole season and replaced with a less charismatic expy noted only for his role in Terminator 2. |
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CapnSamwise
Joined: 11 Jan 2010
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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nvm thinking of x-files, sorry. |
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tall_dave

Joined: 02 Nov 2009 Location: Songtan, S. Korea
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Deep Thirteen wrote: |
kentucker4 would be all over this if he were still here. |
Did he die or something? Tell us what you know. |
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neil537
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Location: Incheon, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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No, but my parents told me about something they'd seen once that they couldn't explain.
They were in the early stages of 'courtship' before they got married, and they and another couple decided for some reason to take a walk down to the south-west corner of the island I am from back home in Scotland. This island is pretty small, and the entire southern half is uninhabited. The South-West corner faces directly out into the Atlantic, there's nothing between there and Canada.
So they were sitting out on the clifftops looking out to sea, and away on the horizon they began to see these lights moving about. At first they thought it might be a military exercise, which are not uncommon in our area, we get quite a lot of low-flying aircraft and such. But these lights were moving incredibly fast, and streaking across the horizon in such a way that my dad said there was no way they could have been normal aircraft. They sat and watched them for a while, and after some time the lights disappeared. I asked my dad why he never reported it and he said that he never really thought about it....I don't know...maybe they were high or something!
Anyway, that's the only connection I have to anything possibly extraterrestrial. I definitely believe there are other 'things' out there somewhere, though I'm not convinced they've been to Earth yet. |
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Some of the Mothers Said
Joined: 01 Jul 2008
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Ever seen a flying saucer/space ship/UFO? |
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tall_dave wrote: |
Have any of you ever seen a space ship (not from this world)? I'm doing some personal research on the matter and would like to hear your true stories.
I have not seen one but I believe alien life exists and visitors from other planets are HERE among us, in Korea even. |
Is this topic related to ur query concerning Colonics? From what I've heard, aliens seem to have a fascination with the back passage. |
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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:08 am Post subject: |
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We're all aliens. |
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mayorgc
Joined: 19 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Christmas Night. 2003. 6 pm.
My place was located by a small city lake. The garage looks out onto the lake and also towards the western part of the city. I was in my garage, in my car, looking towards the western horizon. I see trees, buildings, clouds, street lamps and the lake in front of me. The view is very familiar to me, I see it every time I pull out of my drive way.
There was something different this night. There was a bright light, just above the horizon, maybe the same height as some of the buildings (the buildings are just 1 or 2 km away from me). The light basically looks like a star you see in the sky, but it was huge, just sitting there, beside a building. It looked like a motorcycle headlight, that was just 100 feet away from me, but I know the thing must have been atleast 1 or 2 km away from me.
I was trying to figure out what this giant light in the sky was. It could have been a street lamp, but it was too bright. It could have been some sort of radio tower light, but it wasn't there yesterday. Then the light started to rise. It was a very very slow ascension. I couldn't tell at first that it was rising, but I think it got faster. Then I realized that it could have been a helicopter. The bright light that I was staring at might have been the helicopter spotlight or something and now the copter was rising.
The Light was now higher in the sky, no longer the same height as the buildings. The light then started to get dimmer. The reason it was dimming was that the object was now travelling east, towards my direction. So instead of looking head on into the light that was infront of me, the light was now travelling towards me and was more "above" then infront, which explains why it looked dim to me. When the thing was above the lake, I finally got a good look at the thing and it was no helicopter. It was absolutely an aircraft. I remember seeing red and green flashing lights on the underside. The thing really looked like a black triangle to me, but it was night time and 3 lights in any formation will almost always like like some sort of triangle in the night sky.
The thing was basically travelling in a straight line from what I could see, but suddenly, it just veered right (south) when it was above the lake (which is about 300 meters away). It wasn't a 90 degree turn, more like a 110 degree turn. I tried following it in my car but it basically dissapeared from my view after a couple of minutes. I was able to get a couple more glances at it and I definitely remember red green lights. I still think it looked triangular and black, but in the dark night sky, almost all planes look like black triangles.
So, I was trying to process all the info and this is what I concluded. The thing was stationary for maybe 1 minute. It was sorta just hanging out, near some buildings. It looked like a giant star or car headlight. It definitely rose up into the sky, like a helicopter. But this was absolutely not a helicopter. The thing also made a right turn, south, towards the airport. But it couldn't have been an airplane, since airplanes don't normally hover or rise. And for some reason, it just looked like a black triangle to me.
So I was in school at the time and had some breaks in between classes. I scoured the internet, looking for reports that were similar to what I saw. I used Nuforc.org, it's a ufo sightings database. Nuforc has a really extensive database/archive, that dates back to atleast the 70s.
I searched for all reports that mentioned black triangles. Then, I read those reports and made a note of any mentions of bright white lights. Starting from as early as 1975 I think, there were cases where people report seeing a bright light in the distance. The bright light then turns out to be a black triangle. I made note of atleast 15 different reports that all sounded similar to my experience.
Of the 12-15 cases that sounded similar to mine, there were maybe 3 or 4 that really caught my eye. One case took place maybe 3 or 4 years before mine, but it took place on Christmas as well. It was a report of a bright light that turned out to be a black triangle.
One case was from a stoner dude scouring a field for "shrooms". He swore that he was lucid. He mentioned that he saw a bright white light, like a headlight and it turned out to be a black triangle.
Other cases used the same vocabulary as I did. They report that they saw something like a "headlight in the sky" or that the light "rose into the sky".
In the end, I'm not sure what I saw, but I think it's fascinating that the thing that I described was so similar to things that people in the 70s or 80s also saw. |
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tall_dave

Joined: 02 Nov 2009 Location: Songtan, S. Korea
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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mayorgc wrote: |
Christmas Night. 2003. 6 pm. |
Cool story, thank you. I just have a hard time believing that with the sky filled with millions of stars, and each star a sun with it's own planets that we are the only ones. I bet each solar system has at least 1 planet with living beings on it. |
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CapnSamwise
Joined: 11 Jan 2010
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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It really depends on what you consider "life". If we're talking single-cell organisms sitting in a pool of liquid sapphire somewhere off of Eos, then yeah there are probably aliens out there.
If you're thinking complex organisms capable of bitchslapping Reality into allowing faster than lightspeed travel, you'd have to seriously narrow down the environments wherein evolutionary processes were applied in such a way that these creatures evolved the ability to leave the planet and detect whatever radio signals we're sending out, that they were able to travel to Earth, and that for some odd reason they'd actually want to interact with us.
I mean, Human civilization is such a statistical fluke that I'm pretty sure we don't actually exist. So many different things had to happen in just such a precise manner that we developed technology, it's pretty crazy. |
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tall_dave

Joined: 02 Nov 2009 Location: Songtan, S. Korea
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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CapnSamwise wrote: |
It really depends on what you consider "life". If we're talking single-cell organisms sitting in a pool of liquid sapphire somewhere off of Eos, then yeah there are probably aliens out there. |
I believe in flying saucers, and aliens, and all that stuff. The fact is, theres just so much we don't know about. Hell, they find new species of animals in the world every year. |
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CapnSamwise
Joined: 11 Jan 2010
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, but life exists on Earth. We have an environment conductive to the formation of complex amino acids. In a primarily methane environment, that wouldn't happen.
Think of it this way: You're hungry, and want a cheeseburger. You could search your kitchen, which has all the elements capable of making a cheeseburger, or you could wander down the street and hope you run into a McDonalds. Sure, it's likely that there are McDonalds out there, but the cheeseburger you end up getting might be horrifying, absolutely nothing like the idea of cheeseburgers you knew and loved.
See, in this case the cheeseburger is life, and. . . |
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tall_dave

Joined: 02 Nov 2009 Location: Songtan, S. Korea
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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CapnSamwise wrote: |
Yes, but life exists on Earth. We have an environment conductive to the formation of complex amino acids. In a primarily methane environment, that wouldn't happen.
Think of it this way: You're hungry, and want a cheeseburger. You could search your kitchen, which has all the elements capable of making a cheeseburger, or you could wander down the street and hope you run into a McDonalds. Sure, it's likely that there are McDonalds out there, but the cheeseburger you end up getting might be horrifying, absolutely nothing like the idea of cheeseburgers you knew and loved.
See, in this case the cheeseburger is life, and. . . |
I never said I believe there were identical carbon based beings, sucs as outselves, on other palnets. I just believe there are other living, forms of life capable of communication and transportation. |
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Globutron
Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Location: England/Anyang
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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tall_dave wrote: |
mayorgc wrote: |
Christmas Night. 2003. 6 pm. |
Cool story, thank you. I just have a hard time believing that with the sky filled with millions of stars, and each star a sun with it's own planets that we are the only ones. I bet each solar system has at least 1 planet with living beings on it. |
It is easy to believe it, but you have to understand the physics of it. If you read about the Anthropic principle, the Goldilocks problem, then you might have a better idea. I'll do a quick summary *takes extremely deep breath*:
We live not just within the Goldilocks zone of the Sun (too close and we burn up, too far and we freeze), we also live within a series of other Goldilocks zones:
Our moon is in just the right size. A tiny bit smaller and it would cause tiny perturbations in Earth's spin which would slowly accumulate over hundreds of millions of years, making the earth wobble, creating drastic un-liveable changes in climate - also this instability is bad news for the creation of DNA, which reportedly took millions of years of climactic stability to exist.
Jupiter happens to be our saviour too, tossing the asteroids etc out of our way thanks to its enormous gravity - 'cleaning out' the solar system which has taken billions of years.
If the earth itself was much smaller, its gravity would not keep in the oxygen, if any bigger, the gravity would keep in all the toxins and poisonous gases.
By luck most of our solar system - aside from pluto - have an orbit almost circular, meaning we basically don't collide (as unlikely as this would be anyway but we're talking billions of years).
We're in just the right place of a galaxy just the right size (two thirds of the way in). too close and radiation from the black hole would burn us up, too far and not enough energy to create the higher elements necessary for life.
plate tectonics, ocean amounts, oxygen content, heat content, tilt of the axis, and so on are all 'just right', and with any slight alteration, we wouldn't have stood a chance.
Now to go deeper:
The Universe as a whole has been given 6 numbers that portray it's chances of existence:
Epsilon = 0.007. this is the relative amount of hydrogen that converts to helium. if it were 0.006, it would weaken the nuclear force, and protons and neutrons would not bind together, Deuterium (with one proton and one neutron) could not form, hence the heavier elements would never have been created in the starts, the atoms of our body could not have formed and the entire universe would have dissolved into hydrogen. if 0.008, fusion would have been so rapid that no hydrogen would have survived from the big bang, and there would be no stars today to give energy to the planets.
(Ok I'm going to try and summarize a bit shorter now)
N = 10^36. strength of the electric force divided by the strength of gravity, which shows how weak gravity is. any weaker, stars wouldn't condense and create the heat necessary; the universe would be cold and dead. any stronger, stars would burn up too fast and die before life had chance.
Omega = The relative density of the universe. too small and the Universe would expand and cool too fast. too large and collapsed in no time: '.'Omega cannot have differed from unity by more than one part in a billion billion (one in 10^15)'.
Lambda. The cosmological constant, which determines the acceleration of the universe. too big and the universe would explode, basically. too small and we'd turn into the big crunch.
Q. The amplitude of the irregularities in the cosmic microwave background, which equals 10^-5. too small and we'd be a lifeless mass of dust. too large and we'd all form way too early and gravity would turn us all into a big black hole. about the size of a trillion galaxies (give or take)
D. The number of spacial dimensions. This one is more common sense really, but as M and String theory goes, there are 11 space-time dimensions. we live in the third. living in the second would obviously be impossible (brain neurones wouldnt be able to create complex paths without crosswiring, for example), and any higher dimensions we would witness random collisions and instability within atoms.
All this argues for and against both 'grand design' and probability, but I ain't getting into that. I will add this, though: It is just as easy to believe we in fact *are* the only ones out there - at least in *this* universe - than it is to believe we are not.
This is all taken from your basic physics books, and this is really the extreme shallow end of a very deep pool. awesome stuff...I think.
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