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OBwannabe



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:23 am    Post subject: Yrs taught in Korea=bump up in pay grade in home country? Reply with quote

This question is for those who have a teaching certificate and have taught back in their home country after teaching abroad. Especially in Korea.

I know most provinces in Canada(I'm a Canuck) take previous work experience into consideration when determing where a permanent teacher belongs on the pay grid.

e.g., my friend's wife worked in a early childhood prevention program for 3 years. She then left her job to study for the teaching certification. After graduation she landed a permanent teaching position and was credited for her 3 years experience. So she started on a 4th yr teacher's salary.

I'm certain I will go back home to study for my Ed. degree one of these days. Probably sooner rather than later. I would be much more excited about it if I knew they would count my years taught in Korea when considering salary.

Anyone been down this road before?
Would both/either Hakwon and public school count?

Cheers
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certified Teacher in Canada (Ontario).

Worked 11 years in Korea.

I am out of teaching now but when I was still an active Teacher I checked up on this. You can sometimes get credited with some teaching experience abroad but typically Hakwons will be a hard sell. It might help you land a job as it is teaching experience but it most likely will not bump you up the starting pay scale.
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alistaircandlin



Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I returned to the UK to do an MA and my teaching certificate after teaching two years in Korea. I started my first teaching job on the second tier of the pay scale as a result of my experience as a TEFL teacher in Seoul and Incheon.

In my case I didn't ask for this: my school just started me higher on the scale, so it was a nice surprise. I suggest you might tried negotiating with employers about this after being offered a job. Maybe you won't get the same pay scale as you would if you'd had the teaching experience in Canada; but maybe like my employers, they'll do the decent thing and start you a level higher than a regular newly qualified teacher.

Best of luck with it anyhow,

Alistair
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they want experience taught in accredited schools.

It also depends on the school board. Some school boards also will have a maximum. I did my B.Ed at Brock and thus I know the District School Board of Niagara will only give a max of 5 years teaching experience to experienced teachers.

Considering that it is a buyers market when it comes to teaching, I would be surprised if any boards were willing to give experience credit to those who taught in Korea and aren't ESL specialists. I guess if you had an MA in TESOL or something like that it would endear you for ESL teaching jobs.

I am guessing you most likely don't want to teach ESL when you go back though...

Right now if you can teach French or have Special Ed Part 2 or Specialist you can get a job no problem. Other than those two things, good luck.
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Lao Wai



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: East Coast Canada

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Yrs taught in Korea=bump up in pay grade in home country Reply with quote

OBwannabe wrote:
This question is for those who have a teaching certificate and have taught back in their home country after teaching abroad. Especially in Korea.

I know most provinces in Canada(I'm a Canuck) take previous work experience into consideration when determing where a permanent teacher belongs on the pay grid.

e.g., my friend's wife worked in a early childhood prevention program for 3 years. She then left her job to study for the teaching certification. After graduation she landed a permanent teaching position and was credited for her 3 years experience. So she started on a 4th yr teacher's salary.

I'm certain I will go back home to study for my Ed. degree one of these days. Probably sooner rather than later. I would be much more excited about it if I knew they would count my years taught in Korea when considering salary.

Anyone been down this road before?
Would both/either Hakwon and public school count?

Cheers


Hi,

I'm currently teaching in the New Brunswick public school system. I had previously taught two years in Korea but only had paperwork to document one of those years, which was at a hogwan. I also taught for a year at a Canadian international school in China, and for 1.5 years at a public school in Hong Kong. I got 'official' statements of service (detailed and on letterhead) from each school and submitted them to the certification branch here in NB. They gave me 'half time' for the hogwan and full value for the other schools as I was a certified teacher when I was at those schools.

I'm very happy I did this, as I am now year 5 on the salary scale vs. the year two I would have been if I had never gotten those statements of service.

I'm not sure about other provinces but it couldn't hurt to get the paperwork from employers now while you're still in the country. I asked for mine via e-mail and it was quite the headache (the Korean supervisor asked if she could just write an e-mail an send that). I had to explain the importance of letterhead, etc.

Anyway, I hope this helps!
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OiGirl



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have two years of hogwon experience on my teaching license. Find and complete the relevant paperwork for your state or province:
http://licensurepublic.dpi.state.nc.us/Licensure%20Forms%20pdf%20format/Form%20E.pdf

Quote:
*CRITERIA STATEMENT:
The instructional teaching assistant assignment listed above was service in the classroom with school-age children with actual instructional teaching responsibilities comprising a minimum of 50% of daily activities.
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OBwannabe



Joined: 16 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: Yrs taught in Korea=bump up in pay grade in home country Reply with quote

Lao Wai wrote:
OBwannabe wrote:
This question is for those who have a teaching certificate and have taught back in their home country after teaching abroad. Especially in Korea.

I know most provinces in Canada(I'm a Canuck) take previous work experience into consideration when determing where a permanent teacher belongs on the pay grid.

e.g., my friend's wife worked in a early childhood prevention program for 3 years. She then left her job to study for the teaching certification. After graduation she landed a permanent teaching position and was credited for her 3 years experience. So she started on a 4th yr teacher's salary.

I'm certain I will go back home to study for my Ed. degree one of these days. Probably sooner rather than later. I would be much more excited about it if I knew they would count my years taught in Korea when considering salary.

Anyone been down this road before?
Would both/either Hakwon and public school count?

Cheers


Hi,

I'm currently teaching in the New Brunswick public school system. I had previously taught two years in Korea but only had paperwork to document one of those years, which was at a hogwan. I also taught for a year at a Canadian international school in China, and for 1.5 years at a public school in Hong Kong. I got 'official' statements of service (detailed and on letterhead) from each school and submitted them to the certification branch here in NB. They gave me 'half time' for the hogwan and full value for the other schools as I was a certified teacher when I was at those schools.

I'm very happy I did this, as I am now year 5 on the salary scale vs. the year two I would have been if I had never gotten those statements of service.

I'm not sure about other provinces but it couldn't hurt to get the paperwork from employers now while you're still in the country. I asked for mine via e-mail and it was quite the headache (the Korean supervisor asked if she could just write an e-mail an send that). I had to explain the importance of letterhead, etc.

Anyway, I hope this helps!



Cheers guys! Good info.
I'm actually from New Brunswick too. It's great to hear that it's possible to get credit for the time we spend teaching in Korea.
Lao Wai, how long did it take you to get off the sub list and into a permanent position?
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Lao Wai



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: East Coast Canada

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Yrs taught in Korea=bump up in pay grade in home country Reply with quote

OBwannabe wrote:
Lao Wai wrote:
OBwannabe wrote:
This question is for those who have a teaching certificate and have taught back in their home country after teaching abroad. Especially in Korea.

I know most provinces in Canada(I'm a Canuck) take previous work experience into consideration when determing where a permanent teacher belongs on the pay grid.

e.g., my friend's wife worked in a early childhood prevention program for 3 years. She then left her job to study for the teaching certification. After graduation she landed a permanent teaching position and was credited for her 3 years experience. So she started on a 4th yr teacher's salary.

I'm certain I will go back home to study for my Ed. degree one of these days. Probably sooner rather than later. I would be much more excited about it if I knew they would count my years taught in Korea when considering salary.

Anyone been down this road before?
Would both/either Hakwon and public school count?

Cheers


Hi,

I'm currently teaching in the New Brunswick public school system. I had previously taught two years in Korea but only had paperwork to document one of those years, which was at a hogwan. I also taught for a year at a Canadian international school in China, and for 1.5 years at a public school in Hong Kong. I got 'official' statements of service (detailed and on letterhead) from each school and submitted them to the certification branch here in NB. They gave me 'half time' for the hogwan and full value for the other schools as I was a certified teacher when I was at those schools.

I'm very happy I did this, as I am now year 5 on the salary scale vs. the year two I would have been if I had never gotten those statements of service.

I'm not sure about other provinces but it couldn't hurt to get the paperwork from employers now while you're still in the country. I asked for mine via e-mail and it was quite the headache (the Korean supervisor asked if she could just write an e-mail an send that). I had to explain the importance of letterhead, etc.

Anyway, I hope this helps!



Cheers guys! Good info.
I'm actually from New Brunswick too. It's great to hear that it's possible to get credit for the time we spend teaching in Korea.
Lao Wai, how long did it take you to get off the sub list and into a permanent position?


Hi OBwannabe,

My first year back from HK, I supply taught from September to March. For April, May, and June, I had a long-term supply job at one school. In August, I landed a 0.7 contract working at two schools for the year. This year, I have a full-time contract teaching grade four at one of the two schools from last year. At the moment, I have a 'D' Contract, which usually ensures you have work from year to year but not necessarily at the same school each year. I'm hoping to receive my 'B' Contract in September which is essentially tenure at one school.
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OiGirl



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two years at hogwons in Korea bumped me two levels up the teacher pay scale in Virginia.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OiGirl wrote:
Two years at hogwons in Korea bumped me two levels up the teacher pay scale in Virginia.


Wow...

Good for you anyway. Very Happy
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My years in Korean hakwons was counted toward my years of experience on the pay scale when working in the US, at the time -- however, different schools I applied to had a different maximum number of years -- at the time, Detroit would accept up to 9 years our of state, whereas the school I actually worked at only counted up to 5...and I really don't think I can find a job in the US now that would count all my years of experience off the bat as a new hire....

I would say if your total experience as a teacher is less than 10 years, Korean teaching will probably count, but if you have been in the game more than that, I would like to hear about places that will give you credit for your experience....
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Jessiegirl



Joined: 30 May 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:32 pm    Post subject: lots of questions Reply with quote

Hey everyone!

This goes out to the people who are from Ontario.

Do school boards care if you taught at a university or would they prefer to see someone working in the public school in Korea? Most of my experience is at the university level, so I'm wondering if I should switch. Would they consider my experience not applicable since I worked with university students instead of children? Would they accept my teaching experience prior to receiving my teaching certificate?

Thanks:)
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

8 years in the US + 2 in Korean hogwons + 1 in Mexican private school, all on my pay scale in a new US state.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't speak for Canadian schools, but in the US it will vary from district to district.

When I was offered a job by the Baltimore County public schools, they were willing to give me credit on their payscale for all 5 years of my teaching experience in Korea (hogwon and uni, I've never worked for a public school here) as long as I could document it.

Another district in upstate New York was willing to give me credit for 2 years on their pay scale because they "wanted to give me something", and asked for no documentation.
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vaticanhotline



Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Yrs taught in Korea=bump up in pay grade in home country Reply with quote

OBwannabe wrote:

my friend's wife worked in a early childhood prevention program for 3 years.


Off-topic, but how does go about getting a job doing this?
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