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hiddenflask
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 Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:53 am Post subject: reporting schools for rewards? |
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i read something about this a while ago, about how the government is setting up a system to pay people to report when their hagwons aren't paying taxes or are breaking the law in other ways. they said it was like 2,000,000w...but i can't find anything about it now.
it seems that the tax office has no records of me and that my boss hasn't been paying my taxes to the government...so if this reward system still exists, i'd like to take advantage of it. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:38 am Post subject: Re: reporting schools for rewards? |
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| hiddenflask wrote: |
i read something about this a while ago, about how the government is setting up a system to pay people to report when their hagwons aren't paying taxes or are breaking the law in other ways. they said it was like 2,000,000w...but i can't find anything about it now.
it seems that the tax office has no records of me and that my boss hasn't been paying my taxes to the government...so if this reward system still exists, i'd like to take advantage of it. |
How long have you been at your school?
Small schools are only required to pay their income tax withholding to the tax office once or twice per year. No payments doesn't mean any law has been broken if no payments were required yet.
Better to check on your health ins and pension. If you're a legal teacher on an E2 visa, you've been here over 3 months, and if you have your ARC, then you probably should have been registered and payments should have begun.
You have 3 months from your date of arrival to get an ARC, although you only have 10 days to be registered with the local education office, from your first day of teaching - and they require your ARC to register you - go figure.
After you get your ARC you can be registered for pension, health ins and tax. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| Don't be a snitch. Work out your grievances with your employer, like a real man. |
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hiddenflask
Joined: 03 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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i've been here for a year. i have my arc card and health insurance, but i was never given pension. i have 2 weeks left...so even if the school did have to pay taxes a certain number of times a year, i was working before the end of tax season last year and i would expect that they would have to say something. also, they've told us that we don't have to file taxes in korea...which is b.s. . they told us that we don't get any sort of form, even though i know it's not true. i have two weeks left.
@senior, are you sure you're not a korean boss? if someone has continually screwed you over for a year and let's say you HAVE tried to talk to them about certain things, only to be punished with threats of being fired and undue scrutiny for not deferring to their all powerful wisdom, what would you do? i guess you would roll over and take it like a good korean with a proper sense of their "place." anyways, it's the law. if they don't pay my taxes (which they've taken out of my check every month), guess who's responsible...me! not them! not you! so i guess i should apologize for not being a "real man" or a cowboy or whatever it is you would have me do. the law is for sissies and is only there to emasculate real men like you. |
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CPJ
Joined: 30 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Just make sure you are finished working at the school when you do this.
If there is a reward involved, then guaranteed that your school will find out that you are the snitch and you can probably say goodbye to your severance and airfare home. Maybe even your pay. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:03 am Post subject: |
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| hiddenflask wrote: |
i've been here for a year. i have my arc card and health insurance, but i was never given pension. i have 2 weeks left...so even if the school did have to pay taxes a certain number of times a year, i was working before the end of tax season last year and i would expect that they would have to say something. also, they've told us that we don't have to file taxes in korea...which is b.s. . they told us that we don't get any sort of form, even though i know it's not true. i have two weeks left.
@senior, are you sure you're not a korean boss? if someone has continually screwed you over for a year and let's say you HAVE tried to talk to them about certain things, only to be punished with threats of being fired and undue scrutiny for not deferring to their all powerful wisdom, what would you do? i guess you would roll over and take it like a good korean with a proper sense of their "place." anyways, it's the law. if they don't pay my taxes (which they've taken out of my check every month), guess who's responsible...me! not them! not you! so i guess i should apologize for not being a "real man" or a cowboy or whatever it is you would have me do. the law is for sissies and is only there to emasculate real men like you. |
You're right, since you've been here nearly a year, the tax office should have your records and at least one payment by now, covering 2009.
Likewise, you should have been enrolled in the National Pension Plan. Is it in your contract? It's the law in any case, but sometimes people agree to stay underground. This should have come up already since National Health Ins and Pension are now computer matched. Do you have the Korean National Health Ins, or some other plan?
You are unlikely to get any reward for turning your boss in, but if you are from a country that refunds pension, you will be able to get the reward of a year's pension payments from your boss, paid-in to the pension office and refundable to you, if you are willing to pay your half after reporting your boss. You didn't say if pension was deducted from your pay, or how much was taken out in taxes. You could have a lot coming to you.
Turning them in and collecting will be easier if you're staying on in Korea. If you're leaving, you better visit the tax and pension offices pronto.
Good luck. Have fun. |
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hiddenflask
Joined: 03 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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hey, i do have the national insurance plan, but no pension. they don't deduct and i don't pay. i'd be more than willing to pay my half of pension, but my bosses have flat out said to me "korea doesn't have a pension plan."
my only concern about going to the pension/tax office is that right now my boss still hasn't bought my ticket and i don't have my last paycheck and severance. i'd rather not rock the boat until i'm finished. supposedly they're booking my ticket for a week after my contract is up. |
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Goon-Yang
Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Duh
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| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| Senior wrote: |
| Don't be a snitch. Work out your grievances with your employer, like a real man. |
Don't listen to this n00b. betrayal, stabbing in the back and screwing each over are the Korean way. When in Rome... |
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Englishee
Joined: 21 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:12 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Goon-Yang"]
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| ..screwing each over are the Korean way. When in Rome... |
... do the Romans... |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| Senior wrote: |
| Don't be a snitch. Work out your grievances with your employer, like a real man. |
Where do you work? |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| i've been here for a year. i have my arc card and health insurance, but i was never given pension. i have 2 weeks left...so even if the school did have to pay taxes a certain number of times a year, i was working before the end of tax season last year and i would expect that they would have to say something. also, they've told us that we don't have to file taxes in korea...which is b.s. . they told us that we don't get any sort of form, even though i know it's not true. i have two weeks left. |
If you are American you do not pay income tax in Korea and hence have no income tax report to file (thats just one example that may derail your idea of reporting your school for not paying taxes).
You do not 'get' pension, you pay into the pension scheme and your employer chips in the same amount. You can, depending if your home country has a pension agreement with Korea or not, get this pension back when you leave Korea. The pension would be deducted from your pay.
Some hakwons pay the teachers income taxes as a perk (I know a few).
So you may want to actually check on the facts before going off and reporting your employer..... |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| Goon-Yang wrote: |
| Senior wrote: |
| Don't be a snitch. Work out your grievances with your employer, like a real man. |
Don't listen to this n00b. betrayal, stabbing in the back and screwing each over are the Korean way. When in Rome... |
I like this coming from the man whose start date is less than a year. I could have been here twenty years for all you know. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| i've been here for a year. i have my arc card and health insurance, but i was never given pension. i have 2 weeks left...so even if the school did have to pay taxes a certain number of times a year, i was working before the end of tax season last year and i would expect that they would have to say something. also, they've told us that we don't have to file taxes in korea...which is b.s. . they told us that we don't get any sort of form, even though i know it's not true. i have two weeks left. |
If you are American you do not pay income tax in Korea and hence have no income tax report to file ..... |
The above is NOT correct.
Americans can be exempt from Korean Income tax for their first two years working for a government school, public school and some universities.
There is no Korean income tax exemption for Americans working at hogwans. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Really?
I was under the impression the tax exemption was for all Americans working in Korea for their first 2 years and under a certain income level.
The correction you provided ontheway is very useful. Thanks for making it! |
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Old Gil
Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!
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| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| Senior wrote: |
| Don't be a snitch. Work out your grievances with your employer, like a real man. |
Real men negotiate with cheats!
What did Herm Edwards say? "You play to win the game."
They're not 'working anything out' by withholding pay, that's theft of service, plain and simple. So the best way is to go the Herm Edwards route and win the game. |
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