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Transferring Canadian credit card debt to Korean credit card

 
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.res.ipsa.loquitor



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Transferring Canadian credit card debt to Korean credit card Reply with quote

My partner and I have about $3700 worth of credit card debt, which we pay off by sending money home each month. There is, of course, a fee associated with this, and we are at the mercy of whatever exchange rate is in effect at the time.

We are considering applying for a revolving credit card from Citibank - or some other bank that offers them (NB: most Korean credit cards are non-revolving, meaning that they have to be paid in full every month). We would then use the Korean card to pay off the Canadian debt, so we can service the debt monthly, by paying KRW. No remittance charges, super-fast and easy payments, and no fears of the won tanking and having to pay more for our debt.

The issue is NOT getting the card. My partner and I have already been assured that it will not be a problem. The issue is whether (a) they will give us a sufficient credit limit to completely transfer our Canadian debt, or (b) whether the interest rates will be higher here.

If anyone has tried this, or has any comments either way, please respond to this post.

Thanks!
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Transferring Canadian credit card debt to Korean credit Reply with quote

I am pretty sure the answer is "no" on this one. I don't have much to back it up, but after a few years in Korea, never heard of this happening.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about savings, but is it really a good idea to move a debt into won with the exchange rate the way it is?

In the short term, you may find it favorable. In the long term, it it's probably better to keep it in dollars. If the won gets stronger, then you will have more buying power in the future.
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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to be stating the obvious...BUT...if the two of you scrimped and saved for 2 months, couldn't you just pay it off and be done with it?
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Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jlb wrote:
Not to be stating the obvious...BUT...if the two of you scrimped and saved for 2 months, couldn't you just pay it off and be done with it?


This is what I was going to say. It seems like a (relatively) trifling sum to be going to such pains over.
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.res.ipsa.loquitor



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, we would also be paying on student loans, and it would be much easier to just pay with a Korean credit card instantly, rather than pay for transfers and wait a week for them to clear.

I'm just sick of dealing with two currencies and losing money every time I have to send it home. Call it a reality of teaching overseas, but I feel like it would make my life a lot easier if I could just deal in KRW.

As for the debt, we also have student loans to pay, so it's not possible to just eliminate it all in a month or two.

So maybe we'll just apply for the Korean card and slowly pay off and close the credit card accounts at home.
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Senior



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just pay the one with higher interest first. I don't know how it works in Canada, but where I'm from you can let your student loan slide for ages before they will do anything. Then when you finish paying off the CC, you can roll that cash into the student loan.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

.res.ipsa.loquitor wrote:
Well, we would also be paying on student loans, and it would be much easier to just pay with a Korean credit card instantly, rather than pay for transfers and wait a week for them to clear.

I'm just sick of dealing with two currencies and losing money every time I have to send it home. Call it a reality of teaching overseas, but I feel like it would make my life a lot easier if I could just deal in KRW.

As for the debt, we also have student loans to pay, so it's not possible to just eliminate it all in a month or two.

So maybe we'll just apply for the Korean card and slowly pay off and close the credit card accounts at home.


I hate to be the one to spell this out for you, but if you have student loans, how is that getting paid off as well? Oh that's right, you still have to send money home.

I had over 4k on my visa last summer, I paid it off in 4 months, you know you can pay $500 a month on it each month right?

Living overseas means dealing with exchange rates and $30 fees each time you send money home.

My suggestion is learn to deal with it. Your credit is non-transferable. You owe your bank back home, not visa or mastercard the money.
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mtmelton



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Chillin' in Gwangju

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a Korean credit card why are you paying 30 dollars in transfer fees? You should try to get an expat credit card, It should be lower your transfer fee costs and give you a better exchange rate when you do want to send it home.
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.res.ipsa.loquitor



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for all the good suggestions, and yes MTMelon, the preferential exchange rate is one reason why I plan to get the expat visa (for when I travel or leave Korea permanently).


but from what I've heard about Korean banks, they don't "talk" to each other about their customers credit, etc. So I could just apply to as many banks as nescessary to get a total of $4000 or so.

Then I can make pay off the Canadian credit cards through the Korean ones, and then pay off the Korean ones with my salary, right? It's none of the bank's business what I spend money on, correct?
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egrog1717



Joined: 12 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.res.ipsa.loquitor wrote:
Thank you for all the good suggestions, and yes MTMelon, the preferential exchange rate is one reason why I plan to get the expat visa (for when I travel or leave Korea permanently).


but from what I've heard about Korean banks, they don't "talk" to each other about their customers credit, etc. So I could just apply to as many banks as nescessary to get a total of $4000 or so.

Then I can make pay off the Canadian credit cards through the Korean ones, and then pay off the Korean ones with my salary, right? It's none of the bank's business what I spend money on, correct?



Thing to remember too is that a lot of Korean credit cards are not revolving credit lines... You're expected to pay them off at the end of each month or face high interest/service charges/etc
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

egrog1717 wrote:
.res.ipsa.loquitor wrote:
Thank you for all the good suggestions, and yes MTMelon, the preferential exchange rate is one reason why I plan to get the expat visa (for when I travel or leave Korea permanently).


but from what I've heard about Korean banks, they don't "talk" to each other about their customers credit, etc. So I could just apply to as many banks as nescessary to get a total of $4000 or so.

Then I can make pay off the Canadian credit cards through the Korean ones, and then pay off the Korean ones with my salary, right? It's none of the bank's business what I spend money on, correct?



Thing to remember too is that a lot of Korean credit cards are not revolving credit lines... You're expected to pay them off at the end of each month or face high interest/service charges/etc


Yup they are like American Express is back home.

The way Koreans do the monthly breakdown is when they buy something the vendor breaks down the payments on a monthly basis, like 3 or 6 or 12 months, and you make monthly payments with a little surcharge.

I still think you are better off just sending your money home and paying the cards off ASAP. If your partner and you have two salaries, I don't see how it can't get done. Surely you can save more than $1000 a month out of your salary and that can pay down both your credit card and your student loans.
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toonchoon



Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Transferring Canadian credit card debt to Korean credit Reply with quote

on an E-2 visa, a reputable employer, a steady income and all that good stuff, i had to put down 2 mil to get a credit card with a credit line of 1.8 mil. you get "interest" on the 2 mil you put down, but it's negligible. i just closed the card and took that 2 mil and put it back into my savings account.

i get much more use out of my Samsung Check card, such as discounts here and there, as well as not having to pay with cash at Costco (I used to love whipping out my card, while other foreigners behind me in line stared at me, then pulled out wads of 10,000 bills, but this is no longer the case with the 50,000 bills).

try to get an unsecured card, and let me know if you do, and where.

you could always get american express travelers checks, send them to your dad, have him deposit them, and pay $3 to mail a letter rather than $30 to wire money. then again, there's risk associated with that.
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egrog1717



Joined: 12 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP - Get yourself set up with KB*'s ATM overseas remittance... About half an hour worth of paperwork, but it only costs 5k per transaction (plus whatever your bank at home charges)...

Been hooked up to that since Sept /08 and have send home 600-800k a month ever since...
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