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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:46 am Post subject: |
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Maybe I'm just crabby tonight, but there seems to be a contradiction here (because I do agree with the first part):
"America has to stop these continuous, long-term foreign military adventures... If military force is needed to prevent Iran from attacking Israel or any of its neighbours with nuclear weapons it should be done with the airforce. Simply bomb the sh-t out of the nuclear facilities and the launch pads. Using our airforce completely destroy Iran's will to make war...".
Here are some good points David Frum made: "Here are some of the questions that military planners would have to consider: Do we know the location of all Iranian nuclear facilities? How much bombing will it require to destroy all important sites? If sites are underground and hardened by concrete, will the bombers have to keep pounding for two, three or more days? What kind of civilian casualties should we expect?
Iran has all kinds of capacity to retaliate: firing missiles at oil tankers in the Persian Gulf, for example, or launching terror strikes in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon and possibly even the Caribbean, with assets pre-positioned in Venezuela, Iran�s new Western Hemisphere ally. Should the strike target those capacities in advance? Should air strikes target Iranian naval and military bases as well as nuclear facilities?
More seriously: Can air power alone deal with the potential for Iranian retaliation? Or will naval and ground forces have to be deployed too?
And if the West does strike Iranian ground forces, will air power alone do the job? Remember that NATO fought an air war against Serbia in 1999."
http://www.frumforum.com/obamas-do-nothing-iran-policy
I don't agree with a lot in the article, but the part I quoted above is spot on. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
| Summary of the responses so far: the US is hypocritical, thus Iran will not be a military dictatorship. |
I don't know if Iran will be a military dictatorship or not, and I don't even care. Iran is over there not bothering me. Meanwhile, the US military has highjacked and is crashing the US economy, if not the world economy. I wish Hillary Clinton would address this issue, as it is her nation's military and is a problem her citizens face every single day. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| What we need to do is encourage democracy in Iran through the funding of democratic rebel groups in Iran |
With what money? America's ass is broke! Bankrupt! |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| Reggie wrote: |
| beck's wrote: |
| What we need to do is encourage democracy in Iran through the funding of democratic rebel groups in Iran |
With what money? America's ass is broke! Bankrupt! |
| Reggie wrote: |
| I don't know if Iran will be a military dictatorship or not, and I don't even care. Iran is over there not bothering me. Meanwhile, the US military has highjacked and is crashing the US economy, if not the world economy. I wish Hillary Clinton would address this issue, as it is her nation's military and is a problem her citizens face every single day. |
Something has to give. The United States obviously can no longer afford the status quo.
Serious question. What happens when a funding crisis hits. What does that look like? How easily will the War Party (and their civilian enablers) accept the new reality?
China is a net-seller of American financial instruments now. The funding crisis could very well be here, though masked by quantitative easing. Ugly. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:47 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| Serious question. What happens when a funding crisis hits. What does that look like? How easily will the War Party (and their civilian enablers) accept the new reality? |
They'll be standing around looking stupid and looting what they can, no different than the idiots in New Orleans who knew the big ass hurricane was coming when it was still a thousand miles away, but refused to accept reality until it engulfed them.
I really think our behavior during Hurricane Katrina is a sign of what's to come in America in a lot of ways during the coming financial crisis. |
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