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Does Korea benefit the most from the Military or teachers?
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tall_dave



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:54 pm    Post subject: Does Korea benefit the most from the Military or teachers? Reply with quote

Who does Korea benefit from the most, the U.S. Military or Teachers from abroad? List why you think so.
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tall_dave



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Does Korea benefit the most from the Military or teacher Reply with quote

tall_dave wrote:
Who does Korea benefit from the most, the U.S. Military or Teachers from abroad? List why you think so.

I think the Koreans and all teachers from here and abroad benefit from the U.S. Military. They protect us from the North invading. Thank YOU G.I.s for keeping us safe.
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earthbound14



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say they benefit most from teachers.

We serve a vital role in helping Korea maintain it's nationalistic pride. We show Koreans everywhere that aids is not a Korean problem, that westerners are more interested in money than Koreans, less interested in education than the mighty Koreans, poorer teachers, prone to sexual deviance unlike pure han men, that Koreans have higher I.Q.s, are slimmer, eat far more healthy kimchi, and that Koreans have far greater stamina because of their ability to eat spicy food. We also sometimes are used to show how much fun Koreans have....cause we order our own drinks (we are just not sociable), we don't clutter our tables with anju and a plethora of beer and soju bottles and then we go home earlier while Koreans go to the Norea bang to belt out fantastic tunes until the dawn while the waeguk is either a sleep in bed like a boring stiff or trying to molest Korean girls in some seedy bar somewhere....molesting is bad, um-k.
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madtownhustl



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FanFrigginTastic^

haha
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creeper1



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is an excellent question and I'd like to see it answered.

Teachers - Given how long foreign teachers have been here and the still relatively low English abilities of Koreans, I can say we have made a really modest impact.

Military - The biggest waste of money ever. Why is the US here? The ROK could and should be able to defend themselves alone it the unlikely event they were attacked.
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Old Gil



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taking a long term view, the military has obviously been more helpful, seeing as how our presence here played a part in all the free and cheap money that flowed into the country, both from the US and Japan. But present day it's not really going to do much in the event of a major crisis, seeing as how USFK is predominantly Army.
We're just here now to buzz the bonnets of the Chinese and Russians.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2010/02/04/43/0301000000AEN20100204001100315F.HTML

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We could not get the Army units required for South Korea into South Korea on the time line required by the plan," Secretary of Defense Robert Gates told a hearing of the House Armed Services Committee. "That's not to say they wouldn't get there. It's just that they wouldn't get there as quickly because of the commitments that we have in Iraq and Afghanistan. And so certainly initially we would be especially dependent on the Navy and the Air Force."
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madtownhustl



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One could say the U.S. army is a waste of money. But in NK, you have active trained and brainwashed soldiers numbering the in the millions, and in SK you have video-game addicts who get manicure's with their girlfriends equaling maybe half of NK's army. Hmmmmm.....

Not being mean, just honest.
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dc'79



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
This is an excellent question and I'd like to see it answered.

Teachers - Given how long foreign teachers have been here and the still relatively low English abilities of Koreans, I can say we have made a really modest impact.

Military - The biggest waste of money ever. Why is the US here? The ROK could and should be able to defend themselves alone it the unlikely event they were attacked.


The R.O.K. would have to spend billions to match the current state of defense without the US Military. This is the only reason why the R.O.K. doesn't force the issue.
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Gibberish



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's 0% chance that the North could actually launch a successful invasion, let alone actually conquer SK, or even put up a decent fight. The U.S. military has no purpose. Therefore, teachers win, and also what earthbound14 said.
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caniff



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
Why is the US here?


Two reasons: China and Russia. The countries of North and South Korea realistically are ancillary concerns.

I'm an American and I don't like the arrangement, but hey, there it is.
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tall_dave



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
This is an excellent question and I'd like to see it answered.

Teachers - Given how long foreign teachers have been here and the still relatively low English abilities of Koreans, I can say we have made a really modest impact.

Military - The biggest waste of money ever. Why is the US here? The ROK could and should be able to defend themselves alone it the unlikely event they were attacked.

If the military left, BOTH the Koreans (even the ones that love to hate the military) and the teachers would be screaming for their quick return because Mr. Kim Jong Il would be sending his troops south quicker than you can say "Hite hanna chuseyo".
"The U.S. Military keeps the free world free"
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Old Gil



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tall_dave wrote:
creeper1 wrote:
This is an excellent question and I'd like to see it answered.

Teachers - Given how long foreign teachers have been here and the still relatively low English abilities of Koreans, I can say we have made a really modest impact.

Military - The biggest waste of money ever. Why is the US here? The ROK could and should be able to defend themselves alone it the unlikely event they were attacked.

If the military left, BOTH the Koreans (even the ones that love to hate the military) and the teachers would be screaming for their quick return because Mr. Kim Jong Il would be sending his troops south quicker than you can say "Hite hanna chuseyo".
"The U.S. Military keeps the free world free"


If the military left both Korea AND Japan this might happen.

The Norks have a million guys, the fact that they're starving and under equipped notwithstanding. It's USFK's 30k v. 1 million, there's no way it's a deterrent either way. It's the support from Japan that they know would soon arrive.

But the US isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so that's a moot scenario.

The US military protects perceived vital US interests, whether this coincides with freedom or not is often incidental.
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tall_dave



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Gil wrote:
tall_dave wrote:
creeper1 wrote:
This is an excellent question and I'd like to see it answered.

Teachers - Given how long foreign teachers have been here and the still relatively low English abilities of Koreans, I can say we have made a really modest impact.

Military - The biggest waste of money ever. Why is the US here? The ROK could and should be able to defend themselves alone it the unlikely event they were attacked.

If the military left, BOTH the Koreans (even the ones that love to hate the military) and the teachers would be screaming for their quick return because Mr. Kim Jong Il would be sending his troops south quicker than you can say "Hite hanna chuseyo".
"The U.S. Military keeps the free world free"


If the military left both Korea AND Japan this might happen.

The Norks have a million guys, the fact that they're starving and under equipped notwithstanding. It's USFK's 30k v. 1 million, there's no way it's a deterrent either way. It's the support from Japan that they know would soon arrive.

But the US isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so that's a moot scenario.

The US military protects perceived vital US interests, whether this coincides with freedom or not is often incidental.

I don't think either of them get paid enough. I say the teachers and the U.S. military should all get a huge pay increase. Wink
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madtownhustl



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Gil wrote:
tall_dave wrote:
creeper1 wrote:
This is an excellent question and I'd like to see it answered.

Teachers - Given how long foreign teachers have been here and the still relatively low English abilities of Koreans, I can say we have made a really modest impact.

Military - The biggest waste of money ever. Why is the US here? The ROK could and should be able to defend themselves alone it the unlikely event they were attacked.

If the military left, BOTH the Koreans (even the ones that love to hate the military) and the teachers would be screaming for their quick return because Mr. Kim Jong Il would be sending his troops south quicker than you can say "Hite hanna chuseyo".
"The U.S. Military keeps the free world free"


If the military left both Korea AND Japan this might happen.

The Norks have a million guys, the fact that they're starving and under equipped notwithstanding. It's USFK's 30k v. 1 million, there's no way it's a deterrent either way. It's the support from Japan that they know would soon arrive.

But the US isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so that's a moot scenario.

The US military protects perceived vital US interests, whether this coincides with freedom or not is often incidental.


I'd say Japan is a deterrent, and the fact that we have the fastest moving military in the world helps out.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madtownhustl wrote:
the fact that we have the fastest moving military in the world helps out.


It's about to get even faster:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/LB04Ad01.html
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