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Bramble



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kberger wrote:
2/18 update

The Ministry of Labor told me today I don't need to get 30 days notice because I have worked at the school for less than six months.


I believe that information is correct. The law is posted somewhere on this site and the same question came up recently.
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lifeinkorea



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bramble wrote:
kberger wrote:
2/18 update

The Ministry of Labor told me today I don't need to get 30 days notice because I have worked at the school for less than six months.


I believe that information is correct. The law is posted somewhere on this site and the same question came up recently.


So they can just kick you out the next day? That doesn't make sense, but I am not necessarily challenging it. Does it mean then that it's easier to get another job? Is that the only saving grace from not having 30 days?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are you changing your ticket to a one-way? I fly on roundtrip tickets all the time.
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Bramble



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifeinkorea wrote:
Bramble wrote:
kberger wrote:
2/18 update

The Ministry of Labor told me today I don't need to get 30 days notice because I have worked at the school for less than six months.


I believe that information is correct. The law is posted somewhere on this site and the same question came up recently.


So they can just kick you out the next day? That doesn't make sense, but I am not necessarily challenging it. Does it mean then that it's easier to get another job? Is that the only saving grace from not having 30 days?


http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=91053

See Article 35, subparagraph 3.

I'm not sure I understand your other question ... as far as I know you're free to get another job once the employer cancels your visa, but that's an immigration matter and has nothing to do with the Labor Standards Act.

In the past I think people didn't worry so much about getting fired because there were so many jobs to go around that it was (sort of) an employees' market. It's a pretty terrible job market these days from what I hear, so coming over with no money and no backup plan is a lot riskier than it used to be.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bramble wrote:
lifeinkorea wrote:
Bramble wrote:
kberger wrote:
2/18 update

The Ministry of Labor told me today I don't need to get 30 days notice because I have worked at the school for less than six months.


I believe that information is correct. The law is posted somewhere on this site and the same question came up recently.


So they can just kick you out the next day? That doesn't make sense, but I am not necessarily challenging it. Does it mean then that it's easier to get another job? Is that the only saving grace from not having 30 days?


http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=91053

See Article 35, subparagraph 3.

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That particular version's outdated though...there's been some changes since it was posted.
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Bramble



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Bramble wrote:
lifeinkorea wrote:
Bramble wrote:
kberger wrote:
2/18 update

The Ministry of Labor told me today I don't need to get 30 days notice because I have worked at the school for less than six months.


I believe that information is correct. The law is posted somewhere on this site and the same question came up recently.


So they can just kick you out the next day? That doesn't make sense, but I am not necessarily challenging it. Does it mean then that it's easier to get another job? Is that the only saving grace from not having 30 days?


http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=91053

See Article 35, subparagraph 3.

.


That particular version's outdated though...there's been some changes since it was posted.


I thought that was supposed to be the updated version? Has Article 35, subparagraph 3 changed?
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bramble wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Bramble wrote:
lifeinkorea wrote:
Bramble wrote:
kberger wrote:
2/18 update

The Ministry of Labor told me today I don't need to get 30 days notice because I have worked at the school for less than six months.


I believe that information is correct. The law is posted somewhere on this site and the same question came up recently.


So they can just kick you out the next day? That doesn't make sense, but I am not necessarily challenging it. Does it mean then that it's easier to get another job? Is that the only saving grace from not having 30 days?


http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=91053

See Article 35, subparagraph 3.

.


That particular version's outdated though...there's been some changes since it was posted.


I thought that was supposed to be the updated version? Has Article 35, subparagraph 3 changed?



Whistleblower posted that in June 2007. The LSA was wholly amended a month later and split into five separate acts. As for that particular article I'll have to check on that and get back to you...just letting you (and others) know that that link may not be 100% reliable.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, it seems as far as that article goes, it is correct.

The updated version can be found in Korussian's post on the third page BTW
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Bramble



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Okay, it seems as far as that article goes, it is correct.

The updated version can be found in Korussian's post on the third page BTW


Sorry, I thought Whistleblower must have edited the original post to reflect the changes.

This is Korussian's post on the third page. Ttompatz provided the links to the legislation and Korussian provided a link to the PDF site.

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Korussian wrote:
Unfortunately, the Labor Standards Act PDF referenced here by ttompatz is not searchable. It is just a scan of the original paper document.

For easier reference, I have used Optical Character Recognition (OCR) software to convert it into a searchable PDF, which you can get here.

Happy laboring!

http://www.dmitryvolokhov.com

ttompatz wrote:
prairieboy wrote:
Whistleblower wrote:
I have updated the Korean Labor Standards Act as required. Apologies if it wasn't up to date.


LSA was wholly amended July 27, 2007. New articles have been inserted, others have been deleted completely, and others have been re-written.

Look here: http://english.molab.go.kr/english/ for the most recent translation of the LSA.

Cheers


It has actually been split into 7 acts with some enforcement teeth attached. (YIPEE!!) the following 5 pertain to E2 English teachers.

Labor Standards Act http://english.molab.go.kr/data/LaborStandardsAct.pdf

Minimum Wage Act http://english.molab.go.kr/data/MinimumWageAct.pdf

Wage Claim Guarantee Act http://english.molab.go.kr/data/WageClaimGuaranteeAct.pdf

Employee Retirement Benefit Security Act http://english.molab.go.kr/data/EmployeeRetirementBenefitSecurityAct.pdf

Act on the Protection, etc. of Fixed-term and Part-time Employees http://english.molab.go.kr/data/ActontheProtection,Etc.,ofFixed-term&Part-timeEmployees.pdf.

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