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YBM ECC, Talk to me guys.
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Danofthepeople



Joined: 05 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: YBM ECC, Talk to me guys. Reply with quote

Hello English teachers! I have been in Korea for one year teaching in Gimhae at a small private academy. After a year of "interesting" employment, I want to find an academy with a curriculum and good organisation.

I am speaking to YBM at the moment and wonder if any of you are either teaching or have taught at a YBM school in Busan.

Is it a decent place to work? Are you respected? Do they pay you on time? etc etc.. Im sure you know the usual Hagwon questions...

Anything about your experience with this company will be useful as I want to make the right decision for my second year in Korea.
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Whitey Otez



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: The suburbs of Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a franchise, meaning every branch is going to be different, depending on who owns it and who is running the show.

FWIW, I didn't hate my time at an ECC in Seoul. I stayed for eighteen months. The owner was a tough guy, but the manager held it together nicely. I put my focus on the students and did a decent job.
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geedeebain



Joined: 16 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work in an ECC franchise.

Not bad at all. Pay on time, small classes, good hours and only have to teach one lesson one Saturday a month.

They are always helpful when you need help and the manager runs a tight ship.

However, as the previous poster mentioned, if it is a franchise the quality among schools may differ quite alot.
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Danofthepeople



Joined: 05 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sure the one that I was applying for was Company Owned - which they state means that head office is directly involved in what goes on there. As to whether that will make an overall difference is still to be known.

what are their textbooks like? do they have a decent curriculum to work from? What kind of freedom do you have to make the lessons your own?
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smoggy



Joined: 31 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked at a franchise and the books were terrible. They were filled with mistakes. The students did not want to be there, and they were losing students. The manager was ok, but she was more interested in fashion than in teaching. She only had 2 years of teaching, and she knew more than the "older" teachers. They had a funky way of paying. They did not have regular vacation and they only gave you a day off when they felt like it. It was ok, but I hear that ECC is the worst Hogwan in K. land. I agree.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whitey Otez wrote:
It's a franchise, meaning every branch is going to be different, depending on who owns it and who is running the show.

FWIW, I didn't hate my time at an ECC in Seoul. I stayed for eighteen months. The owner was a tough guy, but the manager held it together nicely. I put my focus on the students and did a decent job.


Incorrect.

ECC has company owned schools working on the same model and franchise schools who differ in the way they operate.

Stay way from franchises unless you have a referal from someone working there and focus on the company run schools.

There are a few ECC company schools in Busan. One is in Gaya-Gaegum. The director there has been running that show for over a decade. She is tough but from I heard from people who worked there, she is also fair. However the hours are heavy.

The curriculum itself is pretty self-sufficient and you can build on it if you want to enhance your lessons (heck you should want to).

Anyway...good luck.
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wesharris



Joined: 10 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YBM' Corporate is quite nice to work for.
I 've enjoyed my two months so far. 10 more to go of course.
I find my classes to be enjoyable and the hours are short.
Depends, if you do go corporate OP. You'll be alright.
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Whitey Otez



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: The suburbs of Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Whitey Otez wrote:
It's a franchise, meaning every branch is going to be different, depending on who owns it and who is running the show.

FWIW, I didn't hate my time at an ECC in Seoul. I stayed for eighteen months. The owner was a tough guy, but the manager held it together nicely. I put my focus on the students and did a decent job.


Incorrect.

ECC has company owned schools working on the same model and franchise schools who differ in the way they operate.

Stay way from franchises unless you have a referal from someone working there and focus on the company run schools.

There are a few ECC company schools in Busan. One is in Gaya-Gaegum. The director there has been running that show for over a decade. She is tough but from I heard from people who worked there, she is also fair. However the hours are heavy.

The curriculum itself is pretty self-sufficient and you can build on it if you want to enhance your lessons (heck you should want to).

Anyway...good luck.


How was I incorrect? Whether owned by the head office or a franchisee, each branch is as unique as a snowflake.
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Tigerstyleone



Joined: 01 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked at ECC in Busan, Deockcheon. It sucked
Two weeks of unpaid training oh i got 10,000 won a day for food and transport.
Then day one I had 8 fourty minute classes a day 5 days a week with no break and no food and only 5 minutes between classes. NO heat or aircon not to mention model lessons every Wednesday so come in an hour early for that and weekly teacher meetings don't forget to mention the piles and piles of ridiculous paper work grading journals, evaluations, checking for speaking contest, stupid lesson plans, but what takes the cake was when I had a throat infection and influenza at the same time.
My doctor said I needed to stay in the hospital one day for evaluation and take IV fluid, fevers can be serious..
The director came to the hospital and pulled me out of their telling the doctor that I had no choice but to work.
The korean teachers were very distant and didn't seem to enjoy working there either. They were always leaving before their contract was over.
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Toju



Joined: 06 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simply - don't.
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Danofthepeople



Joined: 05 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Tigerstyle I got the same thing in my third month teaching in my academy. I lost my voice and was unable to speak. Director took me to the doctor and told him that I needed to teach in 30 mins so he had to give some medicine. Crazy stuff.

I think ill be at the YBM in Geumjeong if you have any specifics about there?

Are there any larger Hagwon chains that are reasonable? ChungDahm perhaps?
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