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nautilus
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Looks like he's caused another sensation.
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Agence France-Presse (AFP) quoted Lee SungLee Sung-Su as saying that Ohno did not deserve a medal. Lee won the gold Saturday in the 1,500 meter on the short-track course at 2010 Winter Games. Ohno won silver after two other Koreans, Sung Si-Bak and Lee-Suk, collided and crashed into the boards.
Ohno was quoted as saying that the Koreans should have been disqualified. |
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/5243544-olympic-rivalry-korean-skater-disses-ohnos-medal-win
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:31 am Post subject: |
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I have no respect for Lee Jung Su. The guy wins a gold, and all he should be thinking about is positivity. He shakes hands with Ohno, he's all smiles when the camera is on, then when they're apart, he mouths off Ohno, saying he didn't deserve it.
Ohno crossed the finish line 2nd. He therefore deserves the silver.
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Looks like our erstwhile skater has caused another sensation. He is the living embodiment of Korean victimhood.
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Agence France-Presse (AFP) quoted Lee SungLee Sung-Su as saying that Ohno did not deserve a medal. Lee won the gold Saturday in the 1,500 meter on the short-track course at 2010 Winter Games. Ohno won silver after two other Koreans, Sung Si-Bak and Lee-Suk, collided and crashed into the boards.
Ohno was quoted as saying that the Koreans should have been disqualified. |
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/5243544-olympic-rivalry-korean-skater-disses-ohnos-medal-win
Thats why whenever a korean bumps into me I always hold my hands up and say "Oh No".  |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Funny article about the return of anti-ohno sentiment in Korea.
http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-features/news/newsid=430451.html#anti+ohno+sentiment+korea+again
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Online bulletin boards are plastered with posts cursing the 27-year-old.
One company once sold toilet paper emblazoned with Ohno's face: Ohno joyfully winning the gold, Ohno kissing his medal, Ohno laughing. One video game features an Ohno character you can shoot in the head, and to call something "Ohnolike" is to deride it as a dirty trick. |
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If he wins, Ohno will become the most decorated American in Winter Olympics history.
But at least one blogger hopes to see him fall flat on his face: "He should fall down on the ice and have (figure skater) Kim Yu-na land on his disgusting face after she performs a triple axel." |
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AmericanExile
Joined: 04 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Kim Dung Sung clearly cheated and got busted for it. The overhead view showed how blatant it was.
I'm from Chicago, and I don't have any difficulty admitting Michael Jordan pushed off on Byron Russel and tarnished that "championship." The video evidence is clear and I don't have a problem dealing with reality.
Kim Dung Sung is a cheater. No question.
However, he didn't kill anybody. Neither has Apollo Ohno. More importantly, in sports terms this happened like a billion years ago. Can we move on with our lives please.
I have a poster of every single modern Olympics up to Atlanta. It's crap like this that makes me think the modern Olympics need to be cancelled like the ancient ones. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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I searched for a video clip of it. Does anyone have a link? I couldn't find it.
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Kim Dung Sung clearly cheated and got busted for it. The overhead view showed how blatant it was.
I'm from Chicago, and I don't have any difficulty admitting Michael Jordan pushed off on Byron Russel and tarnished that "championship." The video evidence is clear and I don't have a problem dealing with reality.
Kim Dung Sung is a cheater. No question.
However, he didn't kill anybody. Neither has Apollo Ohno. More importantly, in sports terms this happened like a billion years ago. Can we move on with our lives please.
I have a poster of every single modern Olympics up to Atlanta. It's crap like this that makes me think the modern Olympics need to be cancelled like the ancient ones. |
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Omkara
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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This is why it is so hard to have positive affectation for the Koreans as a whole: the nationalism is vitriolic, viceral, and hyper-emotive.
I have never had the same kind of sentiments for having lived in Russia, with whom the USA has had no small rivalry.
Whereas there are a lot of individual Koreans whom I have great respect, I have to do so nearly in spite of myself. I have gotten such a negative taste for this nationalism: almost anything can bubble into a virulent anti-americanism.
It really is a result of a history in which they have been an oppressed and perpetual underdog. Mellinia of putting emotions into their guts and resenting any symbol of strength (which unconsciously activates feelings of inadequacy), they have a twisted sense of justice and entitlement, as is shown in the 1988 boxing scandal.
What an expression of poor-sportsmanship! Yes, Ohno was lucky. But he broke no rule and scated over the line in second place. To therefore direct hostile feelings at him is irrational. To loath his face and desire to skate on it does not stir in me feeling of admiration for the Korean character. That is shameful, yet is not scorned in this country.
Death threats? Netizens attacking olympic webservers? Petty, underhanded. Anything anonymous. This in itself is an expression of the psychological history I have written about above.
I admire individual Koreans; some very much so. But I have no admiration for this culture, at all.
I too would like to see the original footage of the controversy. |
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Painted Wolf
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| Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| flakfizer wrote: |
| Wow, someone created a sock when they saw this thread but didn't get his new identity soon enough to respond until this thread had already been buried for almost 2 weeks. I hope it was worth the trouble. |
Nice try Sherlock but I found this post from a google search a day before I posted. The next day I had my username to post. 2 weeks? No, but cute you were trying to play detective. Maybe next time you'll have your "gotcha" moment.
Omkara, stop trying to sound intelligent. You've lost any credibility with your blatant racism and prejudice. You say you like "individual Koreans" but then go on to say you have no respect for their culture and people as a whole. Yeah let's see how many of those "individual Koreans" will like you back once they know what kind of bigot you are. |
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Wishmaster
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| Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| The Koreans have gone way, way overboard regarding Ohno. They've demonized this kid and it just makes them look like poor sports. Besides, how many people(ie non-Koreans) actually remember the name of any of the Korean skaters? I would wager not many. Now, how many Koreans know who Ohno is? Damn near everybody(including the kids) in Korea. So, what does that tell you? Ohno is in their psyche...he's in their heads. When people hate you so much that they make toilet paper with your face on it and their burn you in effigy, that shows that you are much more important to them than they are to you. When your gold medal winning skater can't even enjoy his moment and only thinks about you(Ohno), then it shows that Ohno means more to Koreans than their own gold medal skater. In the end, Ohno means more to Koreans than their own. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:30 am Post subject: |
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2 weeks?
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Your post: Feb. 17, the post before yours: Feb. 4. |
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PatrickGHBusan
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Great skater...complete idiot.
Hey it happens. |
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Painted Wolf
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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2 weeks?
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Your post: Feb. 17, the post before yours: Feb. 4. |
That doesn't mean I saw that post on Feb. 4th. I saw it on Feb. 16. Again, nice try junior detective. |
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nautilus
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| BoholDiver wrote: |
I searched for a video clip of it. Does anyone have a link? I couldn't find it.
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| Kim Dung Sung clearly cheated and got busted for it. The overhead view showed how blatant it was. |
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Right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z-obyjzj5g&feature=related
Its hard to make out (from that clip at least) exactly how Kim Dong Sung cheated. If anyone has a better clip lets see it.
All that stands out is apolo nudging him to try to get past, then throwing his arms up when he couldn't. Should the leading skater really have to move out of the way of someone tapping them from behind? |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| nautilus wrote: |
| BoholDiver wrote: |
I searched for a video clip of it. Does anyone have a link? I couldn't find it.
| AmericanExile wrote: |
| Kim Dung Sung clearly cheated and got busted for it. The overhead view showed how blatant it was. |
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Right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z-obyjzj5g&feature=related
Its hard to make out (from that clip at least) exactly how Kim Dong Sung cheated. If anyone has a better clip lets see it.
All that stands out is apolo nudging him to try to get past, then throwing his arms up when he couldn't. Should the leading skater really have to move out of the way of someone tapping them from behind? |
Tell me how that is blatant cheating? I think whoever claims he was cheating is stretching it. |
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nautilus
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Tell me how that is blatant cheating? I think whoever claims he was cheating is stretching it. |
So do I actually.
First time I was in Korea was in 2002 right after it happened and I remember the whole uproar here, although I never actually bothered to watch the footage until now.
Seems to me Kim D.S had a skating style of tightly holding the inside. Apolo suddenly rushed him from behind and expected him to move out the way instead of going around the outside. |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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If anyone thinks the Korean was 'blatantly' cheating in 2002, should watch the 500 final with Onho that they just raced a few hours ago. Ohno was DQ'd .
I don't think he was blatantly cheating, but he did put his hand on the Canadian skater, oh no, Ohno is a blatant cheater.
Anyways, I wonder how these guys manage not to get their wrists or fingers sliced up considering all the falling they do. |
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