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kiknkorea
Joined: 16 May 2008
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 Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:03 am Post subject: Teachers' Lap Dance |
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Fourteen-year-old Saigha Vincent was filming the teacher dance-off at the Gym Riot spirit assembly last Wednesday for Grade 9 to 12 students at the Winnipeg high school.
The routine began with the female teacher, sporting pigtails, seated on a chair, her legs spread, hips gyrating. Bumping beats played in the background and the male teacher approached between her legs, his hips swiveling to the beat.
Less than five seconds into the routine, the Grade 9 student and her friends went from giggling to staring at their sometimes very strict instructors in disbelief.
�At first we were laughing and then it was like �Oh that's a little too far.'�
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Read the article for more details.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/prairies/teachers-lap-dance-a-little-too-far-for-students/article1479114/
I know you don't need to be a genius to be a teacher, but I am surprised at the stupidity of some. |
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beck's
Joined: 02 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:58 am Post subject: |
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It's just one more reason why the state should not have anything to do with education. Perhaps these 'teachers' should concentrate more on teaching reading, writing and 'rithmetic rather than entertaining their students with lap dances.
In the local schools where I now substitute they are teaching grade five kids about the ins and outs of female orgasm (pun intended). The Winnipeg lap dance is just a logical extension. The sooner the government schools are sold off and privatized the better. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, the private education teen age boys receive in the hands of priests is so much better. Not to mention the effect of private jails--judges sending kids to juvenile prison so the judges can earn their bribes. Yes, privatizing institutions is a much better approach. |
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RufusW
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| beck's wrote: |
| In the local schools where I now substitute they are teaching grade five kids about the ins and outs of female orgasm (pun intended). |
Sounds good, feminism baby! |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| It's just one more reason why the state should not have anything to do with education. |
Why does every thread have to turn into inane libertarian bullshit about how evil the state is? The state didn't mandate these teachers being jackasses. They're simply jackasses naturally. They would continue to be jackasses if they were employed in the private sector. Jackassery happens in the private sector all the time. Imagine all the sexual harassment cases that occur in private work places alone. Most people don't treat that as a strike against the concept of private enterprise, because they recognize it simply people being people. Well the same is true in public work. Two people making judgment errors are simply two people making judgment errors. |
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Having seen the video, I don't see the big fuss. I would discipline the teachers, and find out what the person filming the video was smoking (is it that hard to hold a camera straight?). The lap-dance was in poor taste and went too far, but it doesn't look like people are shocked in the video -- they're laughing and having fun looking at something a little outrageous, particularly since it's the guy who's doing the dance and acting silly.
One of the unfortunate things about having everything videoed and put on YouTube five minutes later is that things are taken out of context. Once people calm down and the Maude Flanders mothers stop yelling 'think of the children,' the teachers will be older and wiser, hopefully. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Since public schools no longer teach math and science, maybe the lap dance instruction will help some of the kids go on to make decent livings as strippers. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Since public schools no longer teach math and science ... |
I learned Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry, Calculus, Chemistry, Physics, and Biotechnology (via a specialized course at my school) during my attendance at public school, and my school was not particularly big, well funded, or renown in any way, nor were its teachers especially talented. Anyone who can't manage the same is a degenerate mouth-breather that is boarderline unteachable, probably because of parental failure.
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| In the local schools where I now substitute they are teaching grade five kids about the ins and outs of female orgasm (pun intended). The Winnipeg lap dance is just a logical extension. The sooner the government schools are sold off and privatized the better. |
When I was in school, we didn't have sex ed until our freshman year in high school. Of course, our minds were already fried on an overdose of porn by then. 
If a student didn't have a child or a bun in the oven by their junior year in high school, their sexuality was called into question. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| Reggie wrote: |
| Since public schools no longer teach math and science ... |
I learned Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry, Calculus, Chemistry, Physics, and Biotechnology (via a specialized course at my school) during my attendance at public school, and my school was not particularly big, well funded, or renown in any way. Anyone who can't manage the same is a degenerate mouth-breather that is boarderline unteachable, probably because of parental failure. |
And you ended up a teacher in Korea just like those of us who went to public schools in Lynchburg, where trig, physics, biotech, and geometry aren't even offered.  |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Reggie wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| Reggie wrote: |
| Since public schools no longer teach math and science ... |
I learned Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry, Calculus, Chemistry, Physics, and Biotechnology (via a specialized course at my school) during my attendance at public school, and my school was not particularly big, well funded, or renown in any way. Anyone who can't manage the same is a degenerate mouth-breather that is boarderline unteachable, probably because of parental failure. |
And you ended up a teacher in Korea just like those of us who went to public schools in Lynchburg, where trig, physics, biotech, and geometry aren't even offered. |
That has nothing to do with the lie you told about what is or isn't taught in school. Indeed, the refocusing of your point on me just shows you realize how absolutely retarded your original statement was. No school doesn't teach math or science. Maybe some don't offer specialized biotech programs, but that's an extra only a few students want anyway. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| We'll be needing bacasper's opinion on this. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| Reggie wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| Reggie wrote: |
| Since public schools no longer teach math and science ... |
I learned Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry, Calculus, Chemistry, Physics, and Biotechnology (via a specialized course at my school) during my attendance at public school, and my school was not particularly big, well funded, or renown in any way. Anyone who can't manage the same is a degenerate mouth-breather that is boarderline unteachable, probably because of parental failure. |
And you ended up a teacher in Korea just like those of us who went to public schools in Lynchburg, where trig, physics, biotech, and geometry aren't even offered. |
That has nothing to do with the lie you told about what is or isn't taught in school. Indeed, the refocusing of your point on me just shows you realize how absolutely retarded your original statement was. No school doesn't teach math or science. Maybe some don't offer specialized biotech programs, but that's an extra only a few students want anyway. |
Going through the motions of teaching math and science and actually educating the students in these subjects isn't one in the same.
That's why I always loved having Pakistanis and Indians (who nobody else seemed to even want) in my groups during group projects in college. Those students were brilliant compared to us. Having them in a group was as good as having an automatic A.
When I taught in Korea, even the slowest kid spoke better English than any American in my hometown in the USA could speak any foreign language, even the moron at my high school who taught Spanish. That guy taught us that amarillo is pronounced the same way as we pronounce the city Amarillo, Texas, which is totally wrong!
Our public schools are a failure. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Reggie wrote: |
Going through the motions of teaching math and science and actually educating the students in these subjects isn't one in the same.
That's why I always loved having Pakistanis and Indians (who nobody else seemed to even want) in my groups during group projects in college. Those students were brilliant compared to us. Having them in a group was as good as having an automatic A. |
They weren't brilliant compared to you, they were just more involved in the educational process. That's exactly the point I'm trying to make here. Every kid in your class could be those Pakistanis and Indians in terms of how well they achieve; any genetic superiority is minimal, if it exists at all. The big difference is the educational ethic instilled by their parents, which is a cultural feature. The same is true at lower educational levels. Students come out of the educational system deficient in math and science because they're lazy.
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| Our public schools are a failure. |
No, many of our public school students are failures. That's why successful students still come out of the public schools in question; they got involved in their education.
Math is not hard. Science is not hard. Instruction provided may not be brilliant, but it's almost invariably at least adequate. But when a kid just isn't interested, doesn't do his homework, and doesn't pay attention during lessons, the failure is with the parents who raised him, not the teacher who struggled to get past his apathy.
The American population needs to wake the Hell up. They just plain aren't raising their children as well as they need to be. If your child doesn't succeed at education, the failure is yours. If you can't take responsibility, then do a great kindness and don't have a child. Plenty of us -- including, I suspect, a lot of people here on these forums -- ended our public educations competent in the basics of math, science, and so forth. We had access to the same resources as our lower-achieving peers, we just chose to utilize them.
In every English class, I've got some students who actively involve themselves, and some who just plain don't. Nothing I can do -- short of totally neglecting the majority of the students in class -- can make the underachievers pay attention; even making myself availible between or after classes for additional tutelage (which I do) is useless to address those students, because the underachievers are the ones who never take advantage of it. Is it my fault they don't pay attention? No; if they choose to not take advantage of the resource I represent, I can't force them to do so. Neither can any teacher. If the entire class walks away unable to utter any English, yeah I would have failed, but the fact that a fair number of them retained a lot of what we covered shows the lessons worked just fine... for those students who actually engaged in them. |
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