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grandpa
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 Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:19 am Post subject: Staying For Another Year. Do You Get A New Visa Sticker? |
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| I'm planning on staying in Korea for another year. When you go to immigration do they really just stamp the back of your ARC? You don't actually get a new Visa sticker added to your passport? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:48 am Post subject: Re: Staying For Another Year. Do You Get A New Visa Sticker? |
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| I'm planning on staying in Korea for another year. When you go to immigration do they really just stamp the back of your ARC? You don't actually get a new Visa sticker added to your passport? |
Your visa expired 90 days after it was issued (unless you are American - then it was 1 year because of the multi-entry).
When you extend your stay you are actually extending your "status of sojourn" and it is just a simple stamp on the back of your ARC and note in a computer file at immigration.
NOTE: your re-entry privileges DO NOT carry over into the extended period of sojourn. IF you plan to leave on a vacation you WILL need to get a re-entry permit. The best time to do this is when you extend your ARC.
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ChilgokBlackHole
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| Stamp on the back of your ARC... They'll write what appears to be a date on the back of your ARC with a namepen. They will not give you anything on your visa. They will not put anything in your passport. This is unfortunate, because it's caused no end of trouble for travelers who are told not to worry about it, but are not allowed on their return flight because they have what appears to be an expired visa and an ARC with some marker on the back of it. |
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| They do put a sticker if you change schools/transfer your visa, but it's only half a page, not a full page one. |
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grandpa
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:18 am Post subject: |
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| OK. Thanks littlelisa, ChilgokBlackHole, and ttompatz. |
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Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| Stamp on the back of your ARC... They'll write what appears to be a date on the back of your ARC with a namepen. They will not give you anything on your visa. They will not put anything in your passport. This is unfortunate, because it's caused no end of trouble for travelers who are told not to worry about it, but are not allowed on their return flight because they have what appears to be an expired visa and an ARC with some marker on the back of it. |
This is oh so true. I tried to explain this to the immi guy last week and he said "Don't worry about it". In the end I bought a new ARC, 'cos I ain't going through that crap again. I had to sweet talk my way onto the plane on my way back form vacation. A lesser personality would have been bum rushed, but I stood my ground. Why can't they just stamp the VISA sticker with an official looking stamp, or something? What a massive joke.
The whole immigration procedure in this country is a farce of Monty Python proportions. It's like they studied every minute portion of the process and tried to make it as arcane and pointless as possible. Writing the new VISA expiry on the back in felt tip; how bush league is that? Any doofus could have written that shite.
My advice is to raise hell at the immi office about it. The dude was even reluctant to sell me a new ARC. I was like "I will pay for it", even then he did the teeth sucking "very difficult" shtick. What's so difficult about giving me the goods I'm willing to pay over the odds for? If the Immigration Dept were a business, it would have gone out of business 5 minutes after it opened. |
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| Writing the new VISA expiry on the back in felt tip; how bush league is that? Any doofus could have written that shite. |
And news flash, kids. Nobody else cares about your Korean government issued ID. They look at your passport. If the date of your visa is 2/12 and you show up on 2/13 thinking you're going to be able to get back into the country on the strength of your ARC, you're a rube. My passport has a visa in it. It's got a date from last year. I don't expect anyone to take that seriously. |
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roknroll
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| Stamp on the back of your ARC... They'll write what appears to be a date on the back of your ARC with a namepen. They will not give you anything on your visa. They will not put anything in your passport. This is unfortunate, because it's caused no end of trouble for travelers who are told not to worry about it, but are not allowed on their return flight because they have what appears to be an expired visa and an ARC with some marker on the back of it. |
This is oh so true. I tried to explain this to the immi guy last week and he said "Don't worry about it". In the end I bought a new ARC, 'cos I ain't going through that crap again. I had to sweet talk my way onto the plane on my way back form vacation. A lesser personality would have been bum rushed, but I stood my ground. Why can't they just stamp the VISA sticker with an official looking stamp, or something? What a massive joke.
The whole immigration procedure in this country is a farce of Monty Python proportions. It's like they studied every minute portion of the process and tried to make it as arcane and pointless as possible. Writing the new VISA expiry on the back in felt tip; how bush league is that? Any doofus could have written that shite.
My advice is to raise hell at the immi office about it. The dude was even reluctant to sell me a new ARC. I was like "I will pay for it", even then he did the teeth sucking "very difficult" shtick. What's so difficult about giving me the goods I'm willing to pay over the odds for? If the Immigration Dept were a business, it would have gone out of business 5 minutes after it opened. |
Is this unique to Americans? (noting ttompatz's comment about auto multiple-entry status). Cus I needed to pay for mine and although the visa is outdated, the re-entry permit is on the facing page with the current expiry date...and didn't run into any probs.
On an aside, I once finished a contract and purchased a roundtrip ticket from here (can't remember the airline for sure). When my holidays were over I went to the airport to head back to Incheon. Had to fight my way onto the plane because I didn't have a return ticket (out of ROK). I told them that their airline had sold me a round tr ticket....so wtf. Now I'm in the same position so I guess I'll find out if it happens again. If for some reason you're denied access into a country, the airline is liable for shipping you out. Not sure what their red flags are on this but there must be lots of people in this situation--finish a contract, go to a third country for holidays, and return to the ROK to scrape up another contract. |
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roknroll
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:50 am Post subject: |
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ttompatz,
I've benefited from your knowledgeable posts but I have a question on this one:
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| Your visa expired 90 days after it was issued (unless you are American - then it was 1 year because of the multi-entry). |
Isn't the 90 day period simply the final entry date whereby your visa will automatically expire if you do not enter the ROK by this time? And if this is the case you will need to go thru the process of obtaining a visa again. However, when you arrive within the 90 days your visa is valid for the stated period of sojourn (providing you follow the rules--get the ARC within 90 days, don't simply leave on holidays with a single-entry, etc.). |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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ttompatz,
I've benefited from your knowledgeable posts but I have a question on this one:
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| Your visa expired 90 days after it was issued (unless you are American - then it was 1 year because of the multi-entry). |
Isn't the 90 day period simply the final entry date whereby your visa will automatically expire if you do not enter the ROK by this time? And if this is the case you will need to go thru the process of obtaining a visa again. However, when you arrive within the 90 days your visa is valid for the stated period of sojourn (providing you follow the rules--get the ARC within 90 days, don't simply leave on holidays with a single-entry, etc.). |
IF you look on the actual visa the expiry date is 90 days from date of issue.
If you don't enter Korea by that time it will expire and you will need to get a new one.
Your visa is for your initial entry (exception noted below).
Your ARC determines your status of sojourn and length of stay (over the 90 days permitted by the entry visa).
IF you DO enter Korea on that visa then it has been used and if you wish to depart and return under current status of sojourn then you must have a re-entry permit.
The EXCEPTION are US citizens who MAY have a multi-entry visa.
In that case the visa is good for one year BUT as stated, when you extend your status of sojourn the re-entry privilege is NOT extended and you must pay for a re-entry permit or lose your status of sojourn if you leave the country.
ALL THE ABOVE RELATES TO THE E2 VISA/STATUS OF SOJOURN.
Some OTHER visas do have different rules. |
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| Stamp on the back of your ARC... They'll write what appears to be a date on the back of your ARC with a namepen. They will not give you anything on your visa. They will not put anything in your passport. This is unfortunate, because it's caused no end of trouble for travelers who are told not to worry about it, but are not allowed on their return flight because they have what appears to be an expired visa and an ARC with some marker on the back of it. |
This is oh so true. I tried to explain this to the immi guy last week and he said "Don't worry about it". In the end I bought a new ARC, 'cos I ain't going through that crap again. I had to sweet talk my way onto the plane on my way back form vacation. A lesser personality would have been bum rushed, but I stood my ground. Why can't they just stamp the VISA sticker with an official looking stamp, or something? What a massive joke.
The whole immigration procedure in this country is a farce of Monty Python proportions. It's like they studied every minute portion of the process and tried to make it as arcane and pointless as possible. Writing the new VISA expiry on the back in felt tip; how bush league is that? Any doofus could have written that shite.
My advice is to raise hell at the immi office about it. The dude was even reluctant to sell me a new ARC. I was like "I will pay for it", even then he did the teeth sucking "very difficult" shtick. What's so difficult about giving me the goods I'm willing to pay over the odds for? If the Immigration Dept were a business, it would have gone out of business 5 minutes after it opened. |
Maybe it varies between immigration offices because mine has the new date printed on the back |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| roknroll wrote: |
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| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| Stamp on the back of your ARC... They'll write what appears to be a date on the back of your ARC with a namepen. They will not give you anything on your visa. They will not put anything in your passport. This is unfortunate, because it's caused no end of trouble for travelers who are told not to worry about it, but are not allowed on their return flight because they have what appears to be an expired visa and an ARC with some marker on the back of it. |
This is oh so true. I tried to explain this to the immi guy last week and he said "Don't worry about it". In the end I bought a new ARC, 'cos I ain't going through that crap again. I had to sweet talk my way onto the plane on my way back form vacation. A lesser personality would have been bum rushed, but I stood my ground. Why can't they just stamp the VISA sticker with an official looking stamp, or something? What a massive joke.
The whole immigration procedure in this country is a farce of Monty Python proportions. It's like they studied every minute portion of the process and tried to make it as arcane and pointless as possible. Writing the new VISA expiry on the back in felt tip; how bush league is that? Any doofus could have written that shite.
My advice is to raise hell at the immi office about it. The dude was even reluctant to sell me a new ARC. I was like "I will pay for it", even then he did the teeth sucking "very difficult" shtick. What's so difficult about giving me the goods I'm willing to pay over the odds for? If the Immigration Dept were a business, it would have gone out of business 5 minutes after it opened. |
Is this unique to Americans? (noting ttompatz's comment about auto multiple-entry status). Cus I needed to pay for mine and although the visa is outdated, the re-entry permit is on the facing page with the current expiry date...and didn't run into any probs.
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I'm a Kiwi. The kid at check in wasn't buying the re-entry permit either. In the end he called some guy over from KAL who took one look at my VISA and said "No way".  So, I showed him my re-entry stamp and ARC and he said "No problem".
I was pretty pissed off at the time, but I could completely see the check in kid's point. I had basically no proof that I had a VISA. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| roknroll wrote: |
ttompatz,
I've benefited from your knowledgeable posts but I have a question on this one:
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| Your visa expired 90 days after it was issued (unless you are American - then it was 1 year because of the multi-entry). |
Isn't the 90 day period simply the final entry date whereby your visa will automatically expire if you do not enter the ROK by this time? And if this is the case you will need to go thru the process of obtaining a visa again. However, when you arrive within the 90 days your visa is valid for the stated period of sojourn (providing you follow the rules--get the ARC within 90 days, don't simply leave on holidays with a single-entry, etc.). |
IF you look on the actual visa the expiry date is 90 days from date of issue.
If you don't enter Korea by that time it will expire and you will need to get a new one.
Your visa is for your initial entry (exception noted below).
Your ARC determines your status of sojourn and length of stay (over the 90 days permitted by the entry visa).
IF you DO enter Korea on that visa then it has been used and if you wish to depart and return under current status of sojourn then you must have a re-entry permit.
The EXCEPTION are US citizens who MAY have a multi-entry visa.
In that case the visa is good for one year BUT as stated, when you extend your status of sojourn the re-entry privilege is NOT extended and you must pay for a re-entry permit or lose your status of sojourn if you leave the country.
ALL THE ABOVE RELATES TO THE E2 VISA/STATUS OF SOJOURN.
Some OTHER visas do have different rules. |
Thanks for the clarification of terms. I guess what I'm complaining about is having no proof of extension of sojourn. It still doesn't help the situation some of us face. Because airport staff will always look at your passport. They could care less about some rinky dink ID card with some date scribbled on the back in felt tip pen. |
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Senior
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| blackjack wrote: |
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| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| Stamp on the back of your ARC... They'll write what appears to be a date on the back of your ARC with a namepen. They will not give you anything on your visa. They will not put anything in your passport. This is unfortunate, because it's caused no end of trouble for travelers who are told not to worry about it, but are not allowed on their return flight because they have what appears to be an expired visa and an ARC with some marker on the back of it. |
This is oh so true. I tried to explain this to the immi guy last week and he said "Don't worry about it". In the end I bought a new ARC, 'cos I ain't going through that crap again. I had to sweet talk my way onto the plane on my way back form vacation. A lesser personality would have been bum rushed, but I stood my ground. Why can't they just stamp the VISA sticker with an official looking stamp, or something? What a massive joke.
The whole immigration procedure in this country is a farce of Monty Python proportions. It's like they studied every minute portion of the process and tried to make it as arcane and pointless as possible. Writing the new VISA expiry on the back in felt tip; how bush league is that? Any doofus could have written that shite.
My advice is to raise hell at the immi office about it. The dude was even reluctant to sell me a new ARC. I was like "I will pay for it", even then he did the teeth sucking "very difficult" shtick. What's so difficult about giving me the goods I'm willing to pay over the odds for? If the Immigration Dept were a business, it would have gone out of business 5 minutes after it opened. |
Maybe it varies between immigration offices because mine has the new date printed on the back |
Printed? Or written in pen? Airport staff could really give a crap about your ARC anyway. |
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blackjack
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| blackjack wrote: |
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| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| Stamp on the back of your ARC... They'll write what appears to be a date on the back of your ARC with a namepen. They will not give you anything on your visa. They will not put anything in your passport. This is unfortunate, because it's caused no end of trouble for travelers who are told not to worry about it, but are not allowed on their return flight because they have what appears to be an expired visa and an ARC with some marker on the back of it. |
This is oh so true. I tried to explain this to the immi guy last week and he said "Don't worry about it". In the end I bought a new ARC, 'cos I ain't going through that crap again. I had to sweet talk my way onto the plane on my way back form vacation. A lesser personality would have been bum rushed, but I stood my ground. Why can't they just stamp the VISA sticker with an official looking stamp, or something? What a massive joke.
The whole immigration procedure in this country is a farce of Monty Python proportions. It's like they studied every minute portion of the process and tried to make it as arcane and pointless as possible. Writing the new VISA expiry on the back in felt tip; how bush league is that? Any doofus could have written that shite.
My advice is to raise hell at the immi office about it. The dude was even reluctant to sell me a new ARC. I was like "I will pay for it", even then he did the teeth sucking "very difficult" shtick. What's so difficult about giving me the goods I'm willing to pay over the odds for? If the Immigration Dept were a business, it would have gone out of business 5 minutes after it opened. |
Maybe it varies between immigration offices because mine has the new date printed on the back |
Printed? Or written in pen? Airport staff could really give a crap about your ARC anyway. |
Printed as from a computer |
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