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gelynch52
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 Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: Anyone know Y the URGENT need for a pub sch teacher Chungnam |
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Urgent!!!! Immediate public school postion in Chungnam (SEOSAN -Si & Dangjin,Chungcheongnamdo)
I cannot think of too many reasons for ASAP or Urgent public school positions other than a teacher ran away (midnight runner). |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know Y the URGENT need for a pub sch teacher Chun |
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| gelynch52 wrote: |
Urgent!!!! Immediate public school postion in Chungnam (SEOSAN -Si & Dangjin,Chungcheongnamdo)
I cannot think of too many reasons for ASAP or Urgent public school positions other than a teacher ran away (midnight runner). |
99.9999% sure that's the reason.  |
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Big Mac
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| If I would have been smart I would have ran away from the place too. I spent five years in Korea, but after living in Seosan for a year and a half I left Korea and never want to go back. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Why would there be an urgent need though? Weren't there like 5 candidates per each EPIK job? |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Dangjin is a terrible location. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know Y the URGENT need for a pub sch teacher Chun |
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| gelynch52 wrote: |
Urgent!!!! Immediate public school postion in Chungnam (SEOSAN -Si & Dangjin,Chungcheongnamdo)
I cannot think of too many reasons for ASAP or Urgent public school positions other than a teacher ran away (midnight runner). |
My guess is they were informed at the last minute that they would not be getting their new teacher for the start of term this year. This would be the most likely circumstance. Schools get their teacher from NIEED/EPIK through a form of lottery and I would guess that their number did not come up.
To the poster who mentioned a 5-1 applicant over jobs ratio for EPIK... nope... just an excuse for those who were not selected or by a recruiter who posted an EPIK job but was not in fact eligible to recruit for EPIK. |
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randall020105
Joined: 08 Apr 2008
Location: the land of morning confusion...
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| Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:04 am Post subject: re: heard this one before.... hehe... |
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| ...sounds like a "Bait & Switch" gone wrong to me...my 5 cents... |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:57 am Post subject: |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
| Why would there be an urgent need though? Weren't there like 5 candidates per each EPIK job? |
Chungnam province doesn't use EPIK, but the schools directly hire native teachers using OxfordKorea or B2Corea recruiters. My visa stamp reads the name of the public school in Hangul writing; not EPIK nor Chungcheonnam office of education. They call their program Cepik which uses a standard EPIK contract, but with 21 calendar days of vacation, and a 900,000 won indemnity deposit. I don't think there's a website for it, because I didn't find one. I was able to find the teacher I'm replacing due to finding his teaching videos he posted so he filled me in about the job before I arrived. Was supposed to start 3 weeks ago, but visa issue number was delayed. Job was advertised having 5 weeks vacation, but 3 is what is stated in the contract.
400,000 is the settlement allowance of this other Seosan public school job? 300,000 seems norm and is what's in my contract. I just arrived last Friday in Seosan for a public school position through this recruiter. I'm in the city center near the bus station and Holly's coffee where I can get some laptop connectivity going on. Upon landing, I come to find 7pm was too late for airport pick up according to the recruiter who directed me on the phone to take a bus to City Air Terminal in Seoul where I waited until 10 when the lights were being turned off, and then taken to a seedy dingy dirty overpriced love motel at my expense. Didn't like begging to use strangers cell phones, but you gotta do what you gotta do when pay phones have no coin slots and no Korean coins are in your pocket anyhow due to having just arrived. Morning pickup was later than planned and no breakfast stop allowed while still in Seoul despite getting a yes answer when I asked upon getting in his car which was a stinky mess of old leftovers food and used chopsticks. I'm sure that Asiana flight with a 6am arrival would had been too early for the recruiter as well. I thought it was standard for recruiters to deliver the recruit to the school or pay for a motel if unable to deliver until next day. I got popped for an unexpected 60,000 won expense upon landing. As you can imagine, new recruits often aren't made of money, but it can also be argued that doing business of any sort carries a cost. I'm guessing I have to pay for my drug test tomorrow too and they are waiting for the results before paying settlement allowance. Well, I should be getting 300 and then my air money soon after. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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AsiaESLbound: sorry to hear you got fed to the sharks. Would you know whether CEPIK covers Chungbuk as well?
And yes, you pay for the medical check. Have around 70,000 won on you. |
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TheFoodie
Joined: 18 Jan 2010
Location: Ebay Central
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:01 pm Post subject: Seosan sounds pretty bad |
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| Big Mac wrote: |
| If I would have been smart I would have ran away from the place too. I spent five years in Korea, but after living in Seosan for a year and a half I left Korea and never want to go back. |
You're not the only with this view of Seosan - it sounds awful! |
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gelynch52
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject: The area is what you make of it. |
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| I am asking specifically about this particular job and school. I once worked at a miserable public elementary school in a nice area near Jinju. The principal never thought English should be even taught & I (any native speaker) was not wanted before I ever arrived. The teacher before me did a runner, as did, I and the incoming person to replace me might have wanted to know why there was "an Urgent Need." |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
| andrewchon wrote: |
| Why would there be an urgent need though? Weren't there like 5 candidates per each EPIK job? |
Chungnam province doesn't use EPIK, but the schools directly hire native teachers using OxfordKorea or B2Corea recruiters. My visa stamp reads the name of the public school in Hangul writing; not EPIK nor Chungcheonnam office of education. They call their program Cepik which uses a standard EPIK contract, but with 21 calendar days of vacation, and a 900,000 won indemnity deposit.. |
I think that might actually be the school's contract, not the province. I've the Chungnam 2010 contract and it's 18 WORKING days of vacation and no deposit.
Some schools like to take the provincial contract and re-jigger it (there was another thread about a GEPIK school who told their teacher they had to work Saturdays). |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| It used to be called EPIC if I'm not mistaken. A friend of mine was placed there but ended up doing a runner while losing the 900K deposit. I told the guy to stick it out for the deposit and severance, but he replied, "F*ck the deposit." |
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