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april



Joined: 23 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to get this clear-Korea will be good with a background check from only the state you live in? Thanks!
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Baummer



Joined: 22 Apr 2007
Location: Paju

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:29 pm    Post subject: Pennsylvania Reply with quote

I just called the embassy in new york, and they didn't seem to care if you have the printed PATCH form from pennsylvania, rather than a signed form. he said as long as it's apostilled. Has anyone actually been denied with an internet printed background check?
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was denied with a stamped, apostilled, certified STATE POLICE check from the State of Illinois because it had an intra net address on it. I had to get one from Missouri after that snafu, while working under the table for 6 weeks. Boo urns. However, a week after I went in, a girl with the same exact check got accepted. Probably adds to the marriage pool for the poor stress man of Korea. Rule of law sparkling.
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persephone



Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Location: France

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JessRainbows wrote:
Hello all,

I'm eavesdropping on this thread and it seems like the posters really know their stuff here.

I'll be going to Korea to work in about a month, and although I'd be getting married to a Korean citizen once I go, I do want to work. Since that means I should probably apply for an E-2 visa first, I'm going to have to go through getting a criminal background check and all of that. This is all common knowledge, I assume.

The problem is that I live in Tokyo, have been living here for 2 years (actually more close to 5 but I've gone back and forth to the US), and I no longer have a permanent address in the US.

How does one go about getting a criminal background check from overseas? If I don't have a permanent address in the US anymore, what should I do?


See my answer to this question in this thread:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2326906#2326906

Short answer: google search to find the phone number for the police department where you last lived and ask them what to do. Usually, it means sending in a notarized letter with your personal info (name, DOB, SSN, etc), requesting the CBC and for it to be apostillized. Depending on the state, you may have to go through three different offices to get it done. Start the process early, and be prepared to spend some money!
Get a Skype phone number if you don't already have one; it will save you money.
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Park English



Joined: 08 Oct 2006
Location: Itaewon Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,

In regards to getting your FBI check apostilled, it is okay in the state of Arizona; I am looking at one right now. Since there are not any state background checks in Arizona, this may be the reason for allowing the apostille of the FBI check. I do know that many states will not apostille an FBI check, so Arizona might be the only state that will.

About the NY Korean Consulate being okay with the printout from PA, yes they are. However, it will be denied by immigration in Korea; and since you need to be sponsored by your school in Korea first, you must use the mail in form (Criminal History Request Form) in PA. Here is the link: http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=4451&&PageID=458621&level=2&css=L2&mode=2.

Hope this helps.
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Park English



Joined: 08 Oct 2006
Location: Itaewon Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi again,

Also, recently, there has been some confusion about the state background check in California. Here is the link to requesting your own state background check; you will need to have a live scan done first (fingerprinted): http://ag.ca.gov/fingerprints/security.php.

Some police stations in California will say you need a request form from your employer, however, if you use the above link and form you will be fine.

Hope this helps.
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jamiemexi



Joined: 13 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FBI background check takes 13 weeks now. It's ridiculous. Yeah like someone said, go to a live scan facility. It takes 2-3 business days to get your CRC. Apostille Pros
www.apostillepros.com have a live scan machine to process the background check and they can do the apostille. It's very convenient. The way they had done it, it was only 1 document so it saved me money on translation. Not to mention they had it certified translated. So overall, it was convenient for me.



Old Gil wrote:
Park English wrote:
Hi everyone,

Sorry about not maintaining the thread.

Old Gil: There is always another option for state background checks than an online printout. The option depends on the state, but you can get a state check given or mailed to you; in Pennsylvania there is a mail in form. In a few states the state check given or mailed to you may have a www address on it, but it will be more official with a real signature and stamp(s).


Park English Team


Sorry, but the state of Illinois does NOT have this option. Both myself and my father spent a total of three hours talking to the State of Illinois Police office in Joliet and were told that this was the absolute only form issued by the State Police of Illinois, as of April 2009.

Who did you talk to in Joliet that told you differently, and when did you talk to them?

Secondly, I had this official document notarized and apostilled. It was simply not accepted by Immigration, however 'more official' you claim a Korean immigration employee will find it. A female, however, was able to get it accepted the very next day. This is Korea, it depends on the individuals 'kibun/nunchi/jeong', not anything resembling actual rule of law.

Let's get something straight: laws and regulations are considered suggestions by a large majority of Korean institutions. Nobody has the definite answer.
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Ebrown



Joined: 14 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Gil wrote:
I was denied with a stamped, apostilled, certified STATE POLICE check from the State of Illinois because it had an intra net address on it. I had to get one from Missouri after that snafu, while working under the table for 6 weeks. Boo urns. However, a week after I went in, a girl with the same exact check got accepted. Probably adds to the marriage pool for the poor stress man of Korea. Rule of law sparkling.


Oh man, don't say things like this. I was worried enough when I opened mine and it had that nonsense intranet address along the top. It looked so much like an internet printout or something printed out in Word that I almost called to make sure they sent the right thing.

Now I'm worried I'm gonna get an email :<
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MetaFitX



Joined: 23 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just recently got my BCI&I from the state of Ohio, however I noticed it has no signature on the bottom. Should I get another one this time w/ a signature, before I get it notarized and apostilled so I potentially don't have to go through the process again?
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JILLheartsTVXQ



Joined: 20 May 2010

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 2:25 pm    Post subject: Help Reply with quote

I got fingerprinted and I received a criminal background check from New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services, but what they sent me looks like a computer print off. It is multiple pages-- not a one page certificate with a signature. Please help
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jamiemexi



Joined: 13 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most South Korea teaching facility would only accept state background checks not police background checks. But check with your agency.

California State Background Check:
In California you go through a step called "Live Scan" for state background checks. Go into an office, live scan facility, police station and get digital fingerprinted and your information (name, birth date) get sent to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice has criminal history record of people that have been fingerprinted and booked at the police stations in California. Their database. It cost $52 for the live scan. If you don't have a criminal history record, you can receive the CRC in 2-3 business days. It may take up to a week because of budget cuts in California. If you have a record, it can take up to 2 weeks to months. They get details from the courts where you've been arrested.

***Important
This may or may not save you money. If you're teaching in Spain, sometimes they require all documents to be translated then apostille. Well if you have to get a live scan and live in Orange County (the O.C) you may want to visit www.apostillepros.com

They will do the live scan where they get the original signature. When you do this it's 1 piece of paper (CRC). So this mean, you only have to translate 1 piece of paper. If you go somewhere else, you get a copy signature from the DofJ, if you get a copy signature, you will have to translate 2 papers. So you will lose money on translating 2 papers. South Korea teachers do not have to translate documents, only Spain.

Vs.

Michigan State Background Check:
In Michigan, it's done online. No fingerprints.

So depending on the state, they have different process.

Apostille:
Then you have to get your CRC apostille. If you're in South Korea, you can contact Apostille Pros www.apostillepros.com
They will get the apostille for you and send it to South Korea. All you have to do is send them your CRC paper, (original).

Nationwide Background Check in the U.S.
FBI background check is nationwide. You do this is if you lived in California and Michigan or your requesting agency is asking for a FBI background check. You probably have to get a FBI 'cause you moved so much. This takes 13 weeks to get and it's done on an ink card FD258. If you mess up cause your fingerprints are not clear, you have to wait another 13 weeks. You should take two fingerprint cards, so the FBI people can see your prints. This is not electronic. This can be done at the police station or live scan facility.

Hopefully this helps... Have fun teaching in another country.
loyfriend wrote:
Dont they still need to be noterized or APostale stamped?
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mariposita



Joined: 07 May 2010
Location: Salt Lake City, UT

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I just had mine done in UTAH, thought I'd post our state's info for any locals who need it.

1. Go to BCI website http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/yourcrimrecord.html, print out form and mail (if you have fingerprint card - takes approx 7-10 days) or take to BCI office in person (same day service and they do fingerprinting there if you don't have a FP card). NOTE: Fees go up June 1 to $20 for a fingerprint CBC and $15 to do the fingerprints there.

2. When you have CBC from BCI, go to http://www.authentications.utah.gov/process.html. Again print form and mail or take in person to the capital ($15). They will return it within about 3-4 business days.

I did both processes in person since I live in SLC so not far from either office. Took 4 business days total to get and receive completed.

REMEMBER: These are state offices so they are both closed on Fridays.
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wdavis2



Joined: 19 May 2010

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

april wrote:
Just to get this clear-Korea will be good with a background check from only the state you live in? Thanks!


I would like to know this as well!!

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kissdisap



Joined: 19 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamiemexi wrote:
Most South Korea teaching facility would only accept state background checks not police background checks. But check with your agency.

California State Background Check:
In California you go through a step called "Live Scan" for state background checks. Go into an office, live scan facility, police station and get digital fingerprinted and your information (name, birth date) get sent to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice has criminal history record of people that have been fingerprinted and booked at the police stations in California. Their database. It cost $52 for the live scan. If you don't have a criminal history record, you can receive the CRC in 2-3 business days. It may take up to a week because of budget cuts in California. If you have a record, it can take up to 2 weeks to months. They get details from the courts where you've been arrested.


My wife & I had an issue getting the LiveScan report we received in the mail notarized. According to two notaries, they were unable to authenticate it because there was nothing on it to authenticate.

So instead, we had to drive to Sacramento (thankfully we were going there anyway) and they were able to provide us with a notarized copy which we brought straight to the Secretary of State for the apostille. (The DOJ offered to mail it back to us, but we said we'd just pick up since it'd be faster.)

Just a heads up to anyone who runs into a similar issue.
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Park English



Joined: 08 Oct 2006
Location: Itaewon Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Thanks for all the feedback and sorry about the delayed response.

Yes, you need to have lived in the state you request your state background check from for at least a couple years.

Also, starting January 2011, state checks from the US will no longer be accepted. FBI checks will be required and they typically take 8 to 12 weeks to get, so make sure to request them early.

We hope this helps.
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