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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| and its not just women, american snowboarder Scotty Lago got asked to leave vancouver from the IOC because he was at a bar and a few pictures turned up of him and a girl. |
And that wasn't even on the playing field. It's pretty clear that there was no double standard here at all, but rather that the IOC is simply quite conservative in terms of what it expects from participating atheletes, which in turn means this was just more unjustified feminist hysterics from a certain someone. Surprise! |
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Panda
Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Just ask the obvious no good answer question, what do most of you expect those hockey ladies would have done that night? A pillow fight? |
Is that too much to ask? What happened to humility? And humble pillow fighting? In mud? For the children. |
Really, am I too childish, what's the point to win a game then, to smell your own farts at home? 
Come on, it's the Olympics not Nobel peace prize of 2009, let humility take a rest...the girls worked hard and they won, they deserve a crazy evening. |
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Street Magic
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Panda wrote: |
| Street Magic wrote: |
| Panda wrote: |
| Just ask the obvious no good answer question, what do most of you expect those hockey ladies would have done that night? A pillow fight? |
Is that too much to ask? What happened to humility? And humble pillow fighting? In mud? For the children. |
Really, am I too childish, what's the point to win a game then, to smell your own farts at home? :lol: :lol:
Come on, it's the Olympics not Nobel peace prize of 2009, let humility take a rest...the girls worked hard and they won, they deserve a crazy evening. :lol: :lol: |
I was kidding, Panda. I was playing off the idea of "humility" as an excuse to oppress women by associating it with an activity known for its objectification of women. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Do a Google search for 'Jon Montgomery beer' and check the results:
Vancouver Now - Jon Montgomery shows his true Canadian side
Jon Montgomery is the life of Whistler's party
Jon Montgomery: Canada's new golden hero is a classic 'wild man'
Canada\'s Jon Montgomery Knows How to Party
He's routinely being praised for chugging a pitcher in public after winning Canada's fourth gold medal. What kind of role model is he? Where was the IOC's wrath? |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Underwaterbob wrote: |
Do a Google search for 'Jon Montgomery beer' and check the results:
Vancouver Now - Jon Montgomery shows his true Canadian side
Jon Montgomery is the life of Whistler's party
Jon Montgomery: Canada's new golden hero is a classic 'wild man'
Canada\'s Jon Montgomery Knows How to Party
He's routinely being praised for chugging a pitcher in public after winning Canada's fourth gold medal. What kind of role model is he? Where was the IOC's wrath? |
I guess the IOC considers his offense different from that of the Canada Women's Team, Michael Phelps, or Scotty Lago, because:
1) It didn't take place on the play field (Canada Women's Hockey Team).
2) Didn't involve anything illegal (Michael Phelps).
3) Didn't involve anything particularly sexual (Scotty Lago).
If they're willing to tolerate alcohol consumption as long as its off the play field, I don't see a problem with that. I certainly don't see it as a double standard, so long as had he done it on the play field he would have had the same very mild reprocussions. |
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Lunar Groove Gardener
Joined: 05 Jan 2005
Location: 1987 Subaru
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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All Olympic teams celebrate with alcohol and smoking on the field. If they don't, it shows that they have no respect for their sport.
Such is the standard of behavior required of Olympic competitors, so why are these kids singled out? Because they are female.
It's a real selling point for their endorsement careers.
Canada: Smokin'!
Hockey: Bottoms Up!
There's no conflict with the image of the tradition of the Olympiad.
Think of the great Olympians; all of them drank and smoked in the official Olympic venue.
This is a affront to all womankind. Why should they be the only ones that are asked not to booze and smoke in the venue? It must be sexist.
There ought to have been a Canadian blunt team sponsored by Labatts.
I guarantee high ratings for that.
Mixed doubles could finally hold some significance for the great unwashed. |
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aboxofchocolates
Joined: 21 Mar 2008
Location: on your mind
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh, and the woman has been legal in her home province for two weeks short of a year. |
so because she is legal at home she should be able to just do it anywhere she wants? That makes no sense. Maybe I should move to Amsterdam, then by your logic I can go hang out in coffee shops over here in Seoul and smoke weed. hey, its legal at home right?
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When you mixed the black and white paint together at school, did you get a big empty splotch where the gray should have been? Ever been to Vancouver? What do you think their policy is on 18 and fifty week year olds drinking (let alone in celebration of a gold frickin medal?). Did you notice how noone seemed to alert the proper authorities and she wasn't taken away in handcuffs. Welcome to the lightest shade of gray the law has to offer.
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glad you made my point for me Oh, you were being sarcastic too! Well, never mind then. Representing your NHL team during the Stanley Cup where drinking is accepted is one thing, representing your country at the olympics where drinking is not accepted from athletes is another. Same people or not, its a different scenario. and its not just women, american snowboarder Scotty Lago got asked to leave vancouver from the IOC because he was at a bar and a few pictures turned up of him and a girl. |
Drinking isn't accepted at the olympics? huh, glad you somehow know that on some nameless authority. Macleans magazine (canada's major national news magazne) is going to be full of red faces once you tell them. After all, they ran this:
http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/02/13/how-to-party-with-an-olympian/ |
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aboxofchocolates
Joined: 21 Mar 2008
Location: on your mind
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Underwaterbob wrote: |
Do a Google search for 'Jon Montgomery beer' and check the results:
Vancouver Now - Jon Montgomery shows his true Canadian side
Jon Montgomery is the life of Whistler's party
Jon Montgomery: Canada's new golden hero is a classic 'wild man'
Canada\'s Jon Montgomery Knows How to Party
He's routinely being praised for chugging a pitcher in public after winning Canada's fourth gold medal. What kind of role model is he? Where was the IOC's wrath? |
Say, bob, is the man drinking an open beer in public? Because that's illegal in vancouver. As is public drunkenness. Hardly behavior fitting a role model. Gee, I sure hope the media gets ahold of this story. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Why would the IOC care? Considering the IOC is mostly a European run organization, I'm surprised someone made a big deal of girls drinking. |
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aboxofchocolates
Joined: 21 Mar 2008
Location: on your mind
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Lunar Groove Gardener wrote: |
All Olympic teams celebrate with alcohol and smoking on the field. If they don't, it shows that they have no respect for their sport.
Such is the standard of behavior required of Olympic competitors, so why are these kids singled out? Because they are female.
It's a real selling point for their endorsement careers.
Canada: Smokin'!
Hockey: Bottoms Up!
There's no conflict with the image of the tradition of the Olympiad.
Think of the great Olympians; all of them drank and smoked in the official Olympic venue.
This is a affront to all womankind. Why should they be the only ones that are asked not to booze and smoke in the venue? It must be sexist.
There ought to have been a Canadian blunt team sponsored by Labatts.
I guarantee high ratings for that.
Mixed doubles could finally hold some significance for the great unwashed. |
Oh, now I know you're being sarcastic. The greeks were paragons of christian virtue. Why, just look at nothing they've ever done or written- Completely without vice of any kind (I hope you understand I mean greek myths and homer's stuff, or ancient playwrites- funtastic times!).
What on earth does Labatts have to do with blunts. And I thought that snowboarding had that market covered:
http://www.ndsn.org/FEB98/mj1.html |
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kabrams
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| Olivencia wrote: |
| Women acting like men again....this is why I didn't bother watching the Olympics (the female events anyway). |
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Olivencia
Joined: 08 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:16 am Post subject: |
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They ought to have competitions for the best cakes and pies and who can sew...etc
They should also allow them to be cheerleaders. I am really disappointed that there are no cheerleaders in the Olympics. |
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kabrams
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| Olivencia wrote: |
They ought to have competitions for the best cakes and pies and who can sew...etc
They should also allow them to be cheerleaders. I am really disappointed that there are no cheerleaders in the Olympics. |
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Panda
Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| Street Magic wrote: |
I was kidding, Panda. I was playing off the idea of "humility" as an excuse to oppress women by associating it with an activity known for its objectification of women. |
My humor processor sometimes is very slow  |
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DorkothyParker
Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Competitive cheerleading is pretty fierce. I think it's more of a sport than curling at least!
OMG, it would be AWESOME to have an alterna-olympics (the XX Games?) with rollerderby, pillowfighting, etc. I would be more apt to watch (and I'm a straight woman!) C'mon the city of Austin or Portland, get on this!
Sorry, OT. |
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