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fbermingham



Joined: 03 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:24 am    Post subject: Beards in Korea Reply with quote

A potential employer asked me if I was intending on keeping my facial hair when I arrive in Korea. I told him I would shave it off if required. He seemed okay with that. But is there a stigma about beards? Would it be frowned upon if I grew it when I'd arrived?
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crisdean



Joined: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Seoul Special City

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:35 am    Post subject: Re: Beards in Korea Reply with quote

fbermingham wrote:
A potential employer asked me if I was intending on keeping my facial hair when I arrive in Korea. I told him I would shave it off if required. He seemed okay with that. But is there a stigma about beards? Would it be frowned upon if I grew it when I'd arrived?


I was told, by my co-teachers, they think facial hair is dirty. And with some of the soup and noodle dishes they eat I can see how it could be, but isn't that what the "man-bib" is all about? Wink

Personally I think a significant portion of them couldn't grow a beard if their life depended on it, but that's neither here nor there. I never shave, just occasionally trim down to a vandyke though over time out of laziness I let it grow back into a full beard, they more or less accept it, but I think that's only because I'm a foreigner. I have yet to see a Korean public school teacher who isn't clean shaven, I'm not sure if they all simply choose to shave or if it's expected/required for them to.
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Vimfuego



Joined: 10 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After the first day at my school someone, one of the admin staff I guessed, left a razor on my shelf. I laughed. I haven't shaved since!
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.38 Special



Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, I gotta tell ya, my beard is pretty righteous these days. I can chew on it.

The Koreans will judge your professionalism, whether intentionally or subconsciously, by Korean standards. If you would like to be found favorably professional in appearance, you might consider shaving.

Or you can be mangy like me. I am da wildabeast, coo coo cachoo Cool
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fbermingham



Joined: 03 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all very heartening. I think the trick might be to shave it so I look pretty smart when I arrive, and then gradually descend into grizzliness.
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hiddenflask



Joined: 03 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the pictures i sent were all of me with a beard and as soon as i got here they told me to shave. they said i would be "more attractive." i then asked them who they wanted to be attracted to me. ultimately i said they knew what i looked like before i got here and it wasn't a problem then. i did shave it off occasionally and let it grow back from time. they've been pretty good about it but when i shave, they all make their best effort to reassure me how much better i look,etc.

that being said, the korean folk don't care for the beards much. they also relate facial hair growth to dirty sexual thoughts (i wish i were kidding). all the money has dudes with beards; bigger and longer beards than mine!

i think it's just that it's uncommon for them and is part of the bizarre ethnocentrism. if they want to judge you by korean standards though, let them respect you like they would a korean (not going to happen). if they tell you that you'd look better without a beard, tell them they'd look better with that horrible plastic surgery that all the girls get on their eyes to make them look more western.
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I generally maintained stubble and shaved under my neck. If you groom your beard then I think Koreans generally are more tolerant of it.
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alphakennyone



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: city heights

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually get complimented by coworkers and bosses when I grow a beard. Just not the kids or the ladies.
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goesslry



Joined: 19 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the ones that comment do so because they are jealous.

No need to shave. A lot of the women love it, as the Korean counterparts usually don't have enough testosterone to grow one that looks decent.

I've had a beard for a long time. The trick is to keep it "clean" looking, rather than all shaggy. Still looks good, and professional. I get nothing but compliments.

Then again, I work in the arts.
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Banana_Man



Joined: 01 Mar 2010
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^agreed, keep it clean, no rogue hair on the upper cheekbone!!!

I'm with beard and my co-workers love it! Wife not so much but, hey can't please everyone.
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Bbang!



Joined: 31 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Beards in Korea Reply with quote

crisdean wrote:
I have yet to see a Korean public school teacher who isn't clean shaven, I'm not sure if they all simply choose to shave or if it's expected/required for them to.


Work at a public school. Got a beard. Don't care.
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Gibberish



Joined: 29 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep it clean, keep it reasonable with the length.

It is a part of the ethnocentrism, and the perception that bears are dirty and un-Korean. However, the reason the stigma is attached to the beard is because most Korean men can barely grow hair on their upper lips. Personally, I'd go with what hiddenflask said if they ask any questions.

And bbang, he was talking about Korean school teachers, not waegooks.
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kyopoopa



Joined: 28 Feb 2010
Location: west coast

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually trim it once a week or so without any guard on my clipper. Do I need to be clean shaven in the resume photo?

In lieu of shaving, would it be kosher if I just trim it all the way down once a week?

I'm a Kyopo, if that makes any difference.
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yeti08



Joined: 04 Nov 2009
Location: Anyang - Pyeongchon

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My principal gets weird about it sometimes, mostly when she's looking for something to complain about.
She once told me that the kids think I am a grandfather and are scared of me.....
Oh well, I go between the clean shaven look and the short trimmed beard. My co-teachers and owner could care less and my Korean gf likes both.
So like most are saying keep it clean and you should be fine.
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SNOTOSEOUL



Joined: 12 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you need to know the answer listen to the Cowsills "Hair"


Let it fly in the breeze
And get caught in the trees
Flow it, show it
Long as God can grow it
My hair
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