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cybermutiny
Joined: 02 Mar 2010
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 Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:52 pm Post subject: Too late to get a hagwon job? |
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| I'm just bored out of my skull here in the US and want to get a teaching job in South Korea as soon as possible. However, I've missed out on the public school jobs for Spring. Are they continuously hiring at the hagwon puppy mills? |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes they do. Hagwons like to keep the class sizes 10-20. If more students enroll, they hire more teachers. Corollary is of course, if students leave, teachers are fired. |
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sheba
Joined: 16 May 2005
Location: Here there and everywhere!
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Hagwon jobs are available in abundance all year round... |
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cybermutiny
Joined: 02 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Great, I'm in hagwon heaven. Thanks |
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pangaea
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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It's never too late to get a hagwan job. They are hiring year round. There are postings for jobs in hagwons on this site daily. Just make sure to research the schools very carefully. There are a lot of schools out there that have a bad reputation for a reason. Make sure you get to speak to a current and, if possible, former teacher to find out what working for the school is like. If you search on the Jobs forum here or post a question about the school, you should be able to get some useful information.
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| Yes they do. Hagwons like to keep the class sizes 10-20. If more students enroll, they hire more teachers. Corollary is of course, if students leave, teachers are fired. |
In the last hagwon I worked for, the class size was usually 10 or less. Every now and then I had a class with 11 or 12, but that was unusual.
That's a good question to ask your potential employer, or better yet a teacher at the school. I think 10 is about average. Some schools will specifically state they have fewer students in each class. More than 10 students in a class is too many, in my opinion. Of course, that's the norm in public schools. |
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Whitey Otez
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: The suburbs of Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Unless you want to hang out in an office for ten to eleven hours a day and/or live ninety minutes away from the nearest civilization, the hogwan industry is buried pretty deep in competition these days. You may want to buy a PS3 and play some vids for a while to occupy yourself while waiting for decent and real offers to come in.
The days of being hired and flown in within days of posting your resume are done, folks. |
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irishcailin
Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Location: Wandering aimlessly around La Festa!
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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The days of being hired and flown in within days of posting your resume are done, folks.[/quote]
Here here
Took me over 3months to get a job!
Worth it though, love my School! |
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skim234
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Not to brag, but at my hagwon, classes for me are 1-5 people. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| skim234 wrote: |
| Not to brag, but at my hagwon, classes for me are 1-5 people. |
Enjoy it while it lasts. I wonder how long they can afford to stay open(or keep you around) with classes that small. No slight intended - just saying. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
| skim234 wrote: |
| Not to brag, but at my hagwon, classes for me are 1-5 people. |
Enjoy it while it lasts. I wonder how long they can afford to stay open(or keep you around) with classes that small. No slight intended - just saying. |
True. The class size might decrease for a new teacher as students/mothers who liked the last teacher will leave for another hagwon. BUT, if you are good at this (especially edutaining), the class size will start to swell after another month or two. If they have to constantly have to hire other teachers because so many new students are enrolling (ahem) then you are VERY good at this.
Make sure you keep track of enrollment (keep notes) so if someone claims that they can't pay you or that "parents are complaining" jazz, you can point out that ENROLLMENT IS INCREASING so the money is there and SOMEONE must like how you're teaching.  |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| I've neither made it a point to "edutain" nor worry about the comings and goings of students in my classes and I've gotten a raise every year. I left one job and had another in less than a week. If you're presentable and personable then you can get a hogwon job. |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| irishcailin wrote: |
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| The days of being hired and flown in within days of posting your resume are done, folks. |
Here here
Took me over 3months to get a job!
Worth it though, love my School! |
The vast majority of schools are getting the E2 visa done before teachers come over for 2 reasons (mainly 1 reason, possibly a second). Main reason, it's not likely that you can get the first E2 visa without doing an interview at a Korean consulate/embassy in your home country. (BUT some people have, even within the last few months, got their first E2 in Japan.) So, that regulation in itself is forcing schools to hire in advance. If you've already had an E2 visa, then you can still get those interview-on-friday-flight-on-sunday-work-on-monday jobs. The other reason that may be causing schools to get the visa done in advance is that they are more informed now about the fact that if a teacher comes over on a tourist visa, they can easily pull a runner or change schools before they get the E2 visa. I think that it's mainly the new E2 interview regulation.
Is it because the average hogwan is more organised now than the average hogwan 10 years ago? I doubt it. The rate at which they are opening and closing doesn't look any different to me now than it ever did.
So, if it's your first time going to Korea, expect a wait, depending on how fast your school puts through the paper work, how busy the immigration people in Korea are, and how busy/efficient the staff at your local Korean consulate are. |
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