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Lorilou
Joined: 01 Sep 2009
Location: Osan
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 Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| anyone know where I can watch the Wire (season 2 and up) online? Preferably streaming sites... |
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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| I've just started watching The wire. I'm watching it on surfthechannel.com. It's streaming, but it's megavideo, which means only one episode a night (I think the max allowance is 78 mins, then it shuts off and you have to wait an hour before you can watch anything else) |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| Can I skip a season. I'm watching season 2 now and finding it a bit boring. Do I need to finish 2 before I start season 3? |
Everyone hates the 2nd season the first go-round. I hated the 2nd season as well but after I watched season 3 I decided to give 2 a chance again and it was really worth it.
Give it another chance. I've gotten two people to change their minds after watching season 2 again.  |
I like season 2 because I love seeing bad stuff happen to unions. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| Senior wrote: |
| drkalbi wrote: |
| Can I skip a season. I'm watching season 2 now and finding it a bit boring. Do I need to finish 2 before I start season 3? |
The seasons are fairly self contained. I think season 2 is universally considered the worst, though I think it gets a bad rap. |
Actually a few people I know think it is the best season. Personally I think season 4 has that distinction.
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| Everyone hates the 2nd season the first go-round. I hated the 2nd season as well but after I watched season 3 I decided to give 2 a chance again and it was really worth it. |
Well I think everyone, at least in the beginning of season 2, is a little frustrated because it is a completely new set of characters. It's like, "What?? I gotta figure things out again?? Uggh."
I think after the few episodes though, many of us get sucked up again by the show.
Conversely, while season 3 goes back to season 1 (to some extent), I think it is the 2nd weakest season. |
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BaldTeacher
Joined: 02 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Season 1 didn't blow me away on the first watch, but I got to know and like the characters- Bunk, Daniels, Omar, Bodie, 'McNutty', Bubbles.... On first watch, it was slow. I came back to it though, after I knew the characters and it all fit together better.
Season 2 I actually loved from the start. It was relevant to everybody- it showed the problems of the urban blue collar worker and connected it well with the projects and with organized crime.
Season 3 was like Season 1 on crack. I loved Season 3.
Season 4 is the best in my opinion. It has the best version of the theme song too. I really started to hate Marlo, especially after that thing with the secutrity gueard. I liked watching Fruit get his head blown off at the start. I hated that douchebag. Cutty is an underrated character. Chris and Snoop are ice cold.
Season 5, I'm just into the third episode now. It's looking good so far, but I know I'm on the last season and after that there's no more. That sucks. |
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida
Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Not Korea
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| Bought the complete series a year or so ago. Took about a month to get through. Loved watching 3-5 eps every night after work. |
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KOREAN_MAN
Joined: 01 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:12 am Post subject: |
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Has anyone heard of torrents? Streaming is for losers. Either download the episodes (much better picture quality) or buy the sets. It would be worth the money.
Each season has a different theme. Season 2 is the most boring, I think, but if you can get through it, it gets better. You get to see a governor named Carcetti in Season 4 and 5. He reminds me SO MUCH of President Obama right now. I hope Obama doesn't turn into a Carcetti by the time he leaves the office.
FYI: President Obama's favorite TV show is the Wire. Omar is his favorite character, he says. (Mine's Bubbles. What an actor.) |
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AmericanExile
Joined: 04 May 2009
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:33 am Post subject: |
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| Senior wrote: |
| I like season 2 because I love seeing bad stuff happen to unions. |
You just made the list of people whose opinion can be ignored from now on. |
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The Happy Warrior
Joined: 10 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:42 am Post subject: |
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| AmericanExile wrote: |
| Senior wrote: |
| I like season 2 because I love seeing bad stuff happen to unions. |
You just made the list of people whose opinion can be ignored from now on. |
Unions are indeed seedy and scummy. Do I make your list, as well?
I can only hope.
On a more topical note, I really like the third season. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| The Happy Warrior wrote: |
| AmericanExile wrote: |
| Senior wrote: |
| I like season 2 because I love seeing bad stuff happen to unions. |
You just made the list of people whose opinion can be ignored from now on. |
Unions are indeed seedy and scummy. Do I make your list, as well?
I can only hope.
On a more topical note, I really like the third season. |
Union leaders are much bigger gangsters and do far more damage to society than drug dealers. |
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AmericanExile
Joined: 04 May 2009
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| Senior wrote: |
| The Happy Warrior wrote: |
| AmericanExile wrote: |
| Senior wrote: |
| I like season 2 because I love seeing bad stuff happen to unions. |
You just made the list of people whose opinion can be ignored from now on. |
Unions are indeed seedy and scummy. Do I make your list, as well?
I can only hope.
On a more topical note, I really like the third season. |
Union leaders are much bigger gangsters and do far more damage to society than drug dealers. |
Unions helped build America and the middle class. Most Americans would still be living in shacks if it were not for unions. Have unions always been angelic? No. Corporations have a great deal of power and fight dirty often with the aide of the government. The single purpose of unions is to look out for the well being of their human members against these powerful institutions. On a day to day basis that often simply means making sure the workplace follows the law especially when it comes to safety practices.
I worked at a 3M distribution facility while working my way through college. A woman driving a lift truck had an accident with a barrel of a liquid chemical. It got all over her. The MSDS sheets that are required by law were not in the plant. Management told her to go about her work day while they called corporate for the emergency information on that chemical. Not wanting to be fired she did that. It was a night shift, so it was hours before there was anyone at corporate to look up the info. It said seek immediate medical assistance.
Is it intentional evil? No. It's just a supervisor who doesn't want to lose man hours unless he has in his view sufficient reason. If there had been a union, caution not production would have been the concern.
It is easy to identify people, like the both of you, who have no idea what you are talking about. You could say to me unions need to be cleaned up and until they are ... .You could say to me unions served a purpose once but are out of place in the modern world. You could say many negative things about unions to me and I would hear them and respect them and you. You two are expressing a child's comic book view of unions. The world is complex. Unions aren't evil anymore than corporations are. It is easy to write off adults who so proudly express such opinions.
He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool - avoid him. |
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The Happy Warrior
Joined: 10 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| AmericanExile wrote: |
| Senior wrote: |
| The Happy Warrior wrote: |
| AmericanExile wrote: |
| Senior wrote: |
| I like season 2 because I love seeing bad stuff happen to unions. |
You just made the list of people whose opinion can be ignored from now on. |
Unions are indeed seedy and scummy. Do I make your list, as well?
I can only hope.
On a more topical note, I really like the third season. |
Union leaders are much bigger gangsters and do far more damage to society than drug dealers. |
Unions helped build America and the middle class. Most Americans would still be living in shacks if it were not for unions. Have unions always been angelic? No. Corporations have a great deal of power and fight dirty often with the aide of the government. The single purpose of unions is to look out for the well being of their human members against these powerful institutions. On a day to day basis that often simply means making sure the workplace follows the law especially when it comes to safety practices.
I worked at a 3M distribution facility while working my way through college. A woman driving a lift truck had an accident with a barrel of a liquid chemical. It got all over her. The MSDS sheets that are required by law were not in the plant. Management told her to go about her work day while they called corporate for the emergency information on that chemical. Not wanting to be fired she did that. It was a night shift, so it was hours before there was anyone at corporate to look up the info. It said seek immediate medical assistance.
Is it intentional evil? No. It's just a supervisor who doesn't want to lose man hours unless he has in his view sufficient reason. If there had been a union, caution not production would have been the concern.
It is easy to identify people, like the both of you, who have no idea what you are talking about. You could say to me unions need to be cleaned up and until they are ... .You could say to me unions served a purpose once but are out of place in the modern world. You could say many negative things about unions to me and I would hear them and respect them and you. You two are expressing a child's comic book view of unions. The world is complex. Unions aren't evil anymore than corporations are. It is easy to write off adults who so proudly express such opinions.
He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool - avoid him. |
I thought you were going to ignore Senior's opinions? Nah, you preferred to throw ad hominems, and attack the posters rather than the opinions.
Nobody said unions were 'evil.' We said they were seedy, and scummy, and like gangsters. The ties between organized crime and the great unions are well-documented. La Cosa Nostra and Labor Racketeering (go to the bottom). Chicago politics, gangsters, and labor unions.
Furthermore, unions are often detrimental to the interests of their own workers. The AUW, for example, has been instrumental in destroying the American auto industry (no love for the corporate executives either). The Teachers' Union have been protecting poor teachers for decades. There was a time when unions were a necessary evil to combat behemoth industrialists. With strict Federal labor regulations and judicial protection for workers, that time has passed. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| AmericanExile wrote: |
| Senior wrote: |
| The Happy Warrior wrote: |
| AmericanExile wrote: |
| Senior wrote: |
| I like season 2 because I love seeing bad stuff happen to unions. |
You just made the list of people whose opinion can be ignored from now on. |
Unions are indeed seedy and scummy. Do I make your list, as well?
I can only hope.
On a more topical note, I really like the third season. |
Union leaders are much bigger gangsters and do far more damage to society than drug dealers. |
Unions helped build America and the middle class. Most Americans would still be living in shacks if it were not for unions. Have unions always been angelic? No. Corporations have a great deal of power and fight dirty often with the aide of the government. The single purpose of unions is to look out for the well being of their human members against these powerful institutions. On a day to day basis that often simply means making sure the workplace follows the law especially when it comes to safety practices.
I worked at a 3M distribution facility while working my way through college. A woman driving a lift truck had an accident with a barrel of a liquid chemical. It got all over her. The MSDS sheets that are required by law were not in the plant. Management told her to go about her work day while they called corporate for the emergency information on that chemical. Not wanting to be fired she did that. It was a night shift, so it was hours before there was anyone at corporate to look up the info. It said seek immediate medical assistance.
Is it intentional evil? No. It's just a supervisor who doesn't want to lose man hours unless he has in his view sufficient reason. If there had been a union, caution not production would have been the concern.
It is easy to identify people, like the both of you, who have no idea what you are talking about. You could say to me unions need to be cleaned up and until they are ... .You could say to me unions served a purpose once but are out of place in the modern world. You could say many negative things about unions to me and I would hear them and respect them and you. You two are expressing a child's comic book view of unions. The world is complex. Unions aren't evil anymore than corporations are. It is easy to write off adults who so proudly express such opinions.
He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool - avoid him. |
I'm not touching this. There is not a single fact, ounce of knowledge or reasoning in it. I might correct you if you didn't resort to ad homs in your conclusion, but forget it. I can tell that no conversation with you will ever be conducted in good faith. I will say one thing. Attributing the rise in living standards over the last two centuries to unions, is damn near the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Besides, it's a thread about The Wire, a TV show. |
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AmericanExile
Joined: 04 May 2009
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| The Happy Warrior wrote: |
I thought you were going to ignore Senior's opinions? Nah, you preferred to throw ad hominems, and attack the posters rather than the opinions.
Nobody said unions were 'evil.' We said they were seedy, and scummy, and like gangsters. The ties between organized crime and the great unions are well-documented. La Cosa Nostra and Labor Racketeering (go to the bottom). Chicago politics, gangsters, and labor unions.
Furthermore, unions are often detrimental to the interests of their own workers. The AUW, for example, has been instrumental in destroying the American auto industry (no love for the corporate executives either). The Teachers' Union have been protecting poor teachers for decades. There was a time when unions were a necessary evil to combat behemoth industrialists. With strict Federal labor regulations and judicial protection for workers, that time has passed. |
This is for both you and Senior.
It isn't an ad hominem attack to call someone a Nazi if they are actually a Nazi. It is an ad hominem attack to call them a Nazi if they aren't.
On a good/evil scale it isn't out of line to say seedy and scummy are terms that are suggestive of the evil side of the scale. Evil as genocide? No. Inarguably, seedy and scummy are negative emotional terms that you deliberately choose which are an ad hominem attack on unions. Most union members are decent people doing the best they can to provide for their families. There are bad apples in any large group. You spread your vile over everyone without qualification then you cry to me about things I've said. This means when I call you a hypocrite it isn't an ad hominem attack. It's an established fact. Further, I would argue that the things you have said and continue to say about unions are in point of fact indicative of people who don't know what they are talking about. They really and truly show you to be ignorant and arrogant in your ignorance. Calling a fool a fool is not an ad hominem attack.
There is that experience in life when you are an expert in something to the degree that you know exactly how educated people are on that topic by the things they say about them. For most of us here, that probably happens with Korea. You probably won't believe this. Everything you said in response to me was exactly what I thought you would say. I pegged you exactly right. Wake me up when you have an original thought of your own about unions and aren't just spouting the same old predictable anti union ideas that a million people have said before you.
I have no respect for the opinions of people who demonstrate a lack of original and/or complex thought. I think they are fools who are wasting one of the greatest gifts given to humans. I will say it again. You have a comic book understanding of unions and perhaps the world. You can waste all the time you want desperately looking up things to say that will show me just how wrong I am about you. The question is: why do care what I think.
Don't let the fact that I have responded to you go to your head. I just moved, they haven't turned the satellite tv on yet, and I have time to kill before work. If I wasn't bored I wouldn't waste my time with you two.
Also, access to an online dictionary doesn't make you a rhetorician or a philosopher. Stay away from terms like ad hominem. |
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Street Magic
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| AmericanExile wrote: |
| It isn't an ad hominem attack to call someone a Nazi if they are actually a Nazi. It is an ad hominem attack to call them a Nazi if they aren't. |
I don't have any opinions about unions, but ad hominems have nothing to do with whether or not your personal insults are accurate. An ad hominem is an ad hominem if you're using personal insults as though they were arguments.
If, for example, you were actually a diagnosed schizophrenic and I responded to this post with "more schizophrenic nonsense" instead of with the explanation this example is a part of, then I would be making an ad hominem argument even though I'd be accurate insofar as you would have that diagnosis.
Alternatively, if you weren't actually a diagnosed schizophrenic and I called you a schizophrenic but this was just tagged onto the end of an otherwise substantial evidence based argument, than that wouldn't be an ad hominem even though I'd be wrong insofar as you wouldn't have that diagnosis. |
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