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bdot



Joined: 03 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:20 am    Post subject: First time to Korea Reply with quote

Hey all,

Recent CELTA/Bach Ed graduate. There's very little in the way of work in Brisbane at the moment... I've been planning on going to Korea at some point for the last 2 years now. Issue now is... when should I go. From what I can tell... most contracts start at beginning of the year and run for 12monthsish. However, September is looking good for me.

Is it possible to get work in Korea in September or must I wait till the beginning of next year?

Also, second question. Due to my prac experiences in high schools I've decided I greatly dislike all humans under 18. Essentially I'm wanting to be able to teach adults if at all possible. Most of the work I'm seeing seems to be for schools so...

Is there plenty of work outside of school kids in Korea?

I'd greatly appreciate your responses... thanks guys.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothin' in Booming Brisbane? PM Kevo ain't looking after his home state, is he?

You don't have to wait. You can start any time if a job offer comes along.
I can understand your enmity to adolescents,however things are slightly different in Korea.
You can find good classes of adolescents in hagwons in Korea. These are private schools and (good) hagwons expel students if they misbehave.
As for teaching adults, plenty of work there, too. Main markets are universities, which I doubt you'd qualify, and adult conversation classes. The latter usually means split-shifts like 6-10AM and 7-11PM.
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bdot



Joined: 03 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kevo's putting out ceiling fires at the moment...

When you say these conversation classes are usually split shift... do we mean that its sort of a 99% thing and that its next to impossible to get anything else (I didn't know 6am exists... that would literally kill me) or is there a bit of 'normal' adult work floating around as well?

Also, are there particular agencies that tee up this work for you like they do for the school positions?
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The split shifts hours goes with the supply and demand. The adult students are (exception of uni students) salary men/women studying for promotions. Time they have for study fits in with the split shift. There are adult class at more sensible hours too, but that'll be like playing in the reserve grade.

I'd say go for hagwons catering to Middle and High school students.
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Gibberish



Joined: 29 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never, ever work a split shift that starts that early. Ever.

Don't do it.

Do not.

It's wrong.
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bdot



Joined: 03 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with you Gibberish... I'd rather teach kids than do split shifts... and that's saying something.

Do you mean by 'reserve grade' that these jobs are suckier/pay less or in the sense that you'll never get a job doing regular hours?

Btw... are the kids nice, horrible, annoying or a bit of all three? I assume they don't throw chairs around the room while your back's turned.?. (I speak from unexagerrated experience)
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Michelle



Joined: 18 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bdot wrote:
I'm with you Gibberish... I'd rather teach kids than do split shifts... and that's saying something.

Do you mean by 'reserve grade' that these jobs are suckier/pay less or in the sense that you'll never get a job doing regular hours?

Btw... are the kids nice, horrible, annoying or a bit of all three? I assume they don't throw chairs around the room while your back's turned.?. (I speak from unexagerrated experience)



Hi,

Maybe I should explain a bit.

The adults here are often either university students or people who are studying english for work purposes.

This is why they will often require classes so early and late.

In adult academys it might be hard to avoid.

Children's institutes can have kindergarten in the early afternoon and finish quite late.

The choice is yours. Contact a lot of recruiters. Take time to consider the deals and only take one with the conditions you want. In the meantime try to prepare the paperwork, police check etc so that you don't miss out on a job you want because of the timing. Tell the recruiters you are qualified in education and will not work split shifts if this is how you feel.

Many positions here involve split shifts of some kind. There are plenty of teachers who do the afternoon and evening as one shift though.

Get someone to check the contract and finally try to speak to a previous teacher at the school to find out how it is.

There is normally an intake of people who arrive in September but I would be preparing a while before that. Police checks can take a while to get but they are only good for six months and it would help to have a month or so's validity still on it when you come. Transcripts and other documents for submission will have to be apostilled.


Good Luck,


Michelle
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your qualified. You could get a job at an adult hagwoon working nights in a good area of Seoul. You have the right degree with experiance. Only accept an above average job.

Or you could try for a job at a university.

Only public school positions are seasonal.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said before, in (good) hagwons, students are well behaved.
Public school students can be a handful. Tech High schools... let's not even go there.
Uni students can be lazy, uninterested and sometimes asleep during class.
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they are sleeping, atleast they are quiet. I just hate bad students that disrupt good students.
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bdot



Joined: 03 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks heaps for the advice guys. I'll have to get cracking on these police checks etc...

Btw... how do they (students/school management) treat young teachers over there (I'm 24)... any different to the oldies?

Also... I've got a double degree... Arts and Secondary Ed... over here I get payed out over the Arts part... but in Korea would this be valued at all?

What's an adult Hagwoon? Like a private English academy yeah?
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andrewchon



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Korea age is respected but as for foreign teachers, not really. Younger are quicker to get hired. (you are young) Double degree doesn't count much here. B.Ed. M.Ed. Teacher's licence, teaching experience, TESOL/CELTA, PhD counts for extra pay. Hagwon is a hagwon. A hagwon can cater to any age. You're not gonna be able to avoid children even if you are not teaching them.
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