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COLLAPSE! (movie) The End of Mankind?
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crescent



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps I'm being taken wrong. No personal attack intended.
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Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crescent wrote:
Perhaps I'm being taken wrong. No personal attack intended.


I understand where you are coming from. Though, I would say you are picking out the small parts in my argument that are wrong, and missing the bigger picture (what of it there is).

That rant was more directed at another poster (who I noticed has toned down his vitriol lately, probably on threatening of a ban), than at you.
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.38 Special



Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senior wrote:
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Poor Ron Paul. He is so terribly misunderstood and abused. If I could hug him I would. Ole G. W. could use a hug these days, too. Crying or Very sad

But oh well. No one here pretends to be an expert on anything (although some may be expert EFL teachers). No one here is a master of the debating arts, and everyone makes mistakes.

No need to attack each other when civil, controlled, and forgiving argument is so much more desirable Smile

C'mon folks, Kumbayah with me here! Shocked


Say what! Who asked for your opinion? Gosh Rolling Eyes G. W.? George Washington? What are you talking about? Everyone knows he wouldn't have hugged you if his wooden teeth were on fire. I'm an expert on everything (except esl teaching), so why don't you just understand that I know more about this topic than you and leave at that, and shut up, and go to hell? Kumbayah with a monkey's ass baboon brain. Good grief Rolling Eyes where do they find these people? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes times infinity.


I revoke my Kumbayah invitation to you, sir! G. W. Bush, Ron Paul, and I are going to go over to the other side of the forum and make smores. You're not invited Shocked
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crescent



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senior wrote:
Though, I would say you are picking out the small parts in my argument that are wrong, and missing the bigger picture (what of it there is).

No, actually I have pointed out rather large parts. Economic freedom, government regulatiions, currency manipulation to name a few.
These are al fundamental to your argument, no?

You seem to think Korea is this wild East where if you build it, they will come. It's really far from that, and basically everything you've submitted in comparison between here and the states is quite incorrect.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crescent wrote:
Senior wrote:
Though, I would say you are picking out the small parts in my argument that are wrong, and missing the bigger picture (what of it there is).

No, actually I have pointed out rather large parts. Economic freedom, government regulatiions, currency manipulation to name a few.
These are al fundamental to your argument, no?

You seem to think Korea is this wild East where if you build it, they will come. It's really far from that, and basically everything you've submitted in comparison between here and the states is quite incorrect.


You got me on a couple of points. I admitted that Korea wasn't Libertarian at all. This is true. Street vendors are regulated, but not to the extent that they are driven from the street, as is the case in our home countries.

You haven't shown me how stimulus works, and is a good thing. I showed you numerous examples of how stimulus is detrimental, not helpful. Including the case of Korea, which you wouldn't have known the difference between the US stimulus and Korean one, unless I had told you.

You can add the Japanese stimulus to the list. They have been stimulating since almost before I was born, and they have nothing to show for it except one of the GDP/debt ratios in the world. I was wrong about a number of things and admitted it. But you used them to cloud the real picture.

So, you are asking us to accept that the govt knows which alternative energies to invest in, when they frivolously waste cash in other areas?
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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to inform yourself more about peak oil and the possible energy crisis, you should watch A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash.

The whole film is on YouTube. It's very informative and keeps you calm with the pleasing music of Philip Glass.

Part 1 of 9 (you'll find the other parts on this web page)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z9T5XPrDvg

One interesting argument for the upcoming enery crisis is that oil (as it's currently priced) is ridiculously cheap. It costs 20 cents to transport a carfull of people 1.5 miles. Try asking a rickshaw driver (non motorized) to take you that far for that price.
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.38 Special



Joined: 08 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dev wrote:


One interesting argument for the upcoming enery crisis is that oil (as it's currently priced) is ridiculously cheap. It costs 20 cents to transport a carfull of people 1.5 miles. Try asking a rickshaw driver (non motorized) to take you that far for that price.


You're forgetting the cost of the vehicle, maintenance, and insurance. It adds up Shocked

And my personal rickshaw driver isn't cheap. He has 12 sons (all in college), an over valued mortgage, and chronic foot problems to care for. But overall he is cheaper than a new car so I keep him around. Smile
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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommend to teachers in Korea that if you return to your home country, you live near a farm or at least in a small to mid size city.

When the oil runs out, populations in big cities will be hit hard because maybe not enough food will make it there from the countryside.

The oil needed to transport huge quantities of food to the cities won't be there.
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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just found a documentary called The End of Suburbia. Future home buyers in the U.S.A. & Canada should choose small cities (as opposed to suburbs) where everything is walkable (especially your job) because when oil supplies decline, driving will be unaffordable. Even better if farmland is not far away so that you can guarantee your food supply.

People in Europe will have it easier dealing with the decline of oil supples becuse most European cities were planned well before the automobile came into existance.

The End of Suburbia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3uvzcY2Xug

BTW, in case you didn't know, GM are a bunch of ^%$%$! Watch the film to find out why.
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