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Youseok



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:08 am    Post subject: Help The Police Find This Man Reply with quote

By Park Si-soo
Staff Reporter

A 13-year-old girl was found dead in Busan 11 days after she was kidnapped, police said Saturday.

According to officers, the remains of the girl, identified as Lee Yoo-ri, were discovered inside an abandoned water tank just 100 meters away from her home. Lee was kidnapped at around 7 p.m. on Feb. 24. Her body showed signs of being strangled after being raped several times. Convicted rapist Kim Kil-tae, 33, has been put on the wanted list as a prime suspect.

This case is an eerie remainder of when two girls were snatched in Anyang, Gyeonggi Province, on Christmas Day in 2008 and killed by a 39-year-old man.
Police found Lee's body, while inspecting the rooftop of a house in Deokpo-dong, Sasang-gu, Busan, at 9:20 p.m. Saturday.

The container in which her body was found was a blue water tank measuring 1.25 meters high and 88 centimeters wide. Her body was wrapped in a black plastic bag, they said.

The police officer who first found the body was quoted as saying, ``When I removed the top of the water tank, one of her legs was seen protruding through a plastic wrap.''

She was naked with her arms and legs tied with rope, the officer added.
Residents of a small apartment next to the boiler room where the container was located said the tank had not been in use for a long time so that they had no idea that the body was there.

The discovery came during an intensive search by police in Lee's neighborhood. Police found fingerprints on the wrap and are checking to see whether they belong to the suspect, Kim.

Her body was taken to a Busan hospital for an autopsy.
In an interim report released Sunday, police said it appears she was strangled and had been inside the water tank for several days. It also said the body had traces of repeated rapes.

Except for the 11 years during which he was imprisoned, the suspect Kim has lived in the village, police said. Nearly 2,000 detectives and police officers have met Kim's family, relatives and friends and also thoroughly reviewed footage from scores of CCTVs in the neighborhood. But the investigation has so far made little progress.

Last Wednesday night, police saw a man running away from an abandoned house near the child's home, but failed to catch him.

A reward of 20 million won ($17,500) is being offered to anyone with information on the prime suspect's whereabouts.

The girl went missing from her house, following a brief phone call to her mother at around 7 p.m., Feb. 24. Her glasses and mobile phone were left at her home.

For the first three days after her abduction, police approached the case in a low-key fashion but they made it public since, as proven in previous kidnapping cases, the odds of her survival after the first 48 hours were reduced dramatically.

Residents expressed shock at the news of the discovery. ``The abandoned boiler room where her body was found is an area where people are afraid to go alone even in daylight. Thus, it always had the chance of becoming a scene of a crime,'' one said.



A mother of a middle school girl in the area said that she does not know what to do about her daughter, who sometimes come back home late at night after school.

[email protected] His name is Kim Kiltae and if you click on the link you will see his picture.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/03/117_61963.html
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itaewonguy



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they will find him! and they will get a confession out of him..
give it a couple days. he wont be able to run far.. his friends, family will turn him in. no friend or family will protect him after what he did!
and when the police get him, he will get the death penalty , but probably mean spending the rest of his life in death row. which in my opinion is better than the death penalty. because the death penalty is to easy!


Ps. we need to bring back public executions and before we chop his head off we should all be allowed to throw stones and vegetables and rotten fruit on him..

and then all cheer when he is put into the guillotine !!
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he needs to be taken out of society
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taking someone out of society does not require lowering society to the level of bloodlust called for above. Imprisonment for life is removing someone from society and, as it turns out, is much cheaper than the current situation involved with death row cases.

For this case, I recall seeing something about the police canvassing the neighborhood a few days after she went missing. What needs to happen here is for the police, along with the rest of the society, to start taking these cases seriously. Amber alerts would be a great start. Also good would be for the judiciary to take these crimes seriously.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Taking someone out of society does not require lowering society to the level of bloodlust called for above. Imprisonment for life is removing someone from society and, as it turns out, is much cheaper than the current situation involved with death row cases.

I absolutely agree. The man needs to be kept away from society, preferably in a forensic or secure psychiatric facility where he can be studied to find, out what what his motivation for committing such a a horrendous act, and treated as appropriate.

If anyone truly cared about prevention of future such victims, that is the course one should support. Understand why he did it in an attempt to identify future such cases before they occur. It is likely that this man suffered from a paraphilia (e.g. erotophonophilia) which might have been diagnosed in time had he been encouraged to seek help.

It is so easy to give into our bloodlust, kill the bastard, and be no better prepared for the next case.
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
Taking someone out of society does not require lowering society to the level of bloodlust called for above. Imprisonment for life is removing someone from society and, as it turns out, is much cheaper than the current situation involved with death row cases.

I absolutely agree. The man needs to be kept away from society, preferably in a forensic or secure psychiatric facility where he can be studied to find, out what what his motivation for committing such a a horrendous act, and treated as appropriate.

If anyone truly cared about prevention of future such victims, that is the course one should support. Understand why he did it in an attempt to identify future such cases before they occur. It is likely that this man suffered from a paraphilia (e.g. erotophonophilia) which might have been diagnosed in time had he been encouraged to seek help.

It is so easy to give into our bloodlust, kill the bastard, and be no better prepared for the next case.


So kill him after studying him!
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great to see people want to kill a suspect. That's all he is right now a suspect. Despite what he's done in the past, doesn't make him automatically guilty of this crime yet. Once he's found guilty is when you can lynch him.
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caniff



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:

Ps. we need to bring back public executions and before we chop his head off we should all be allowed to throw stones and vegetables and rotten fruit on him..

and then all cheer when he is put into the guillotine !!


This would be televised, of course? Another idea would be to get the condemned together and have them fight to the death with cool weapons while strapped to giant rubber bands like in Mad Max: Thunderdome (that was about the only halfway-interesting thing about that turkey).
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JMO



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone should do a study on people's reaction to stories like this.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
Someone should do a study on people's reaction to stories like this.

Yes, you'd probably find a lot of projection.
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caniff



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
JMO wrote:
Someone should do a study on people's reaction to stories like this.

Yes, you'd probably find a lot of projection.


Hhhmmm, yes. JFF's sake, why don't you put on your smaht hat and take a stab at it.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:
bacasper wrote:
JMO wrote:
Someone should do a study on people's reaction to stories like this.

Yes, you'd probably find a lot of projection.


Hhhmmm, yes. JFF's sake, why don't you put on your smaht hat and take a stab at it.

Many people have subconscious violent, sexual, and/or sadistic impulses which would be too threatening to the ego if they came into consciousness. Projection is a psychological defense mechanism to allay the anxiety that would cause. Attribution of one's own unacceptable impulses to the easy target allays the anxiety that would be caused if those impulses ever reached one's consciousness.
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chris_J2



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:02 pm    Post subject: Criminals Reply with quote

The punushment should fit the crime, & there should be truth in sentencing. A murder should be a mandatory life sentence, not 11 years with good behaviour. It's a life sentence for the victim's families & friends.

Despite the killing of Bulger, Venables was let out after just a few short years. He's currently going back inside, after committing an undisclosed crime. One of the 2 Malaysians that were charged with killing Victor Chang was deported from Australia last week after serving 18 years.

Often, these criminals go on to reoffend after release. There are many, many other examples. I'm opposed to the death penalty, as there have been cases of the wrong person being executed by the State. My 2 won worth.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/8556826.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Chang#Death
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Criminals Reply with quote

chris_J2 wrote:
The punushment should fit the crime, & there should be truth in sentencing. A murder should be a mandatory life sentence, not 11 years with good behaviour. It's a life sentence for the victim's families & friends.

Despite the killing of Bulger, Venables was let out after just a few short years. He's currently going back inside, after committing an undisclosed crime. One of the 2 Malaysians that were charged with killing Victor Chang was deported from Australia last week after serving 18 years.

Often, these criminals go on to reoffend after release. There are many, many other examples. I'm opposed to the death penalty, as there have been cases of the wrong person being executed by the State. My 2 won worth.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/8556826.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Chang#Death

Prisoners should be rewarded for good behavior.

Poor four-year-old Jamie Bulger was killed by Jon Venables and another boy when they were only 10 years old. A good argument can be made for his rehabilitation.

As a group, murderers have a very low rate of recidivism.
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chris_J2



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject: Murder Reply with quote

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The mother of James Bulger has said she has a right to know why his killer is back in prison, but is getting "no answers" from the government.

Jon Venables, 27, who murdered two-year-old James in 1993, was recalled for breaching the terms of his licence.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/8555597.stm

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As a group, murderers have a very low rate of recidivism


Do you have any links to support that statement?

Found this in a quick google:

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Of the 108,580 persons released from prisons in 11 States in 1983, representing more than half of all released State prisoners that year, an estimated 62.5% were rearrested for a felony or serious misdemeanor within 3 years, 46.8% were reconvicted, and 41.4% returned to prison or jail.


This guy would appear to be incorrigible

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sutcliffe

Quote:
Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper, killed 13 women and attacked five others after claiming to have heard voices ordering him to kill prostitutes. In 1981 he was sentenced to a minimum of 30 years in prison and was placed in Broadmoor Hospital, a prison for the criminally insane, after a diagnosis of schizophrenia.

This week his lawyers, armed with the ringing endorsement from the hospital doctors that Sutcliffe is fit to be freed from Broadmoor and 'is effectively cured as long as he never stops taking his medication,' won a ruling from a high court judge that a hearing should be held to set the length of time he should serve before being eligible for parole.

The decision leads us to an uncomfortable appraisal of just what we expect from our prison system.

When a judge sentences a member of society who break the law of the land to be jailed, is it as punishment, in order to be rehabilitated or just as a place to send them to remove them from society for a length of time?

Is the 15 to 30 years of a life sentence the amount of time a judge considers long enough for a criminal to "repay his debt to society' or is the thinking that this is the amount of time that a certain prisoner would take until he is suitably ready to rejoin society and not be a liability?"... ...As two thirds of prisoners reoffend once released


http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/releasing-the-ripper/


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