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Potty-training an infant the Korean (or Chinese) way?
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eperdue4ad



Joined: 22 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:58 pm    Post subject: Potty-training an infant the Korean (or Chinese) way? Reply with quote

So I'm ready to curb our family's use of disposable diapers and learn the methods the Asians use to toilet train. Son is 8 months and currently scooting around on the playmat in the buff while I watch and clean. We'll get a mini-potty soon, after I learn his elimination routine and signals.

How exactly is this done by the Koreans or the Chinese? Anybody got any tips or pointers (heh heh) Laughing

Thanks!
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irishcailin



Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Location: Wandering aimlessly around La Festa!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not try washable nappies my Sister uses them and loves them!
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are Asian routines different from other routines?

We bought a mini toilet and the trick is teaching the kid they need to use that...when they start peeing, move them there.

We also showed books that showed kids doing potty and our kid caught on fast.

She was trained really fast. My nephew is 5 and still occasionally pees the bed at night...WTF? Shocked

Secret for nighttime: stop giving them something to drink right before bed. At 8 months, not sure if they can do it at night. Usually they need to be walking so they can get trained to walk out and pee.
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eperdue4ad



Joined: 22 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so mini toilet, naked kid, and books for visual encouragement. Thanks!

Anybody got anything else? My Korean pal said something about "making the sound" but didn't elaborate. I think I can guess, but would be great to know the technique for certain.

We don't want to go the washable cloth diaper route because our washer/dryer is listed as the least energy-efficient. I'd rather just toilet train early and clean up messes for a few months than have to buy the cloth sets, ship them to Korea, and handwash poop for three years Smile
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, show them what the toilet is for. Trust me, they will learn. The hardest thing to teach them is how to control their impulse to pee/poo whenever and whereever they want.

USE LOTS of praise when they do it properly. Give them a reward.

Good luck.
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RufusW



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Pink wrote:
AMy nephew is 5 and still occasionally pees the bed at night...WTF? :shock:

Pretty common I think, hopefully it isn't still happening at 25!
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Murakano



Joined: 10 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or the Japanese way Laughing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wtm7RfUv24
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detourne_me



Joined: 26 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.porchpotty.com/
This could always work too Razz
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Lynns



Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mini-potty-and-books is the western method of potty training toddlers. Sometimes involves M&Ms.

If you're interested in methods based on traditional Asian practices, it's often referred to as "elimination communication." It's used with infants. You can google it and find millions of pages of info about it. It's kind of a fad now in the west. Enjoy.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EIGHT MONTHS and you want to potty-train him?!

Wow.. good luck. I thought my daughter was quick to be out of nappies at around 20 months.. but 8...?

Let us know how you get on.
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neandergirl



Joined: 23 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eons ago, when I was in West Africa, elimination communication was the norm. It had nothing to do with potty training, it was just the way you dealt with the baby's body functions (no diapers used). You were meant to sense when the baby needed to 'go' and if your baby had an 'accident' you were considered a poor parent.

I believe there've been books promoting this method to Western parents since the late 70s.

I've heard that babies don't have the necessary "body awareness" to actively participate in potty training until they're ~18 months or so, but I imagine there's leeway on either side of that.

Good luck.
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Goon-Yang



Joined: 28 May 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans usually buy a little potty dolly. You give it water and it pees in a little potty. They also use training underwear that don't leak (easily) but get wet and feel uncomfortable. Better to wait til the weather is nicer, so your little one doesn't freeze his/her butt off.
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eperdue4ad



Joined: 22 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goon-Yang wrote:
Better to wait til the weather is nicer, so your little one doesn't freeze his/her butt off.


That's right! I didn't think of that at first but used a pair of those thick legwarmers that toddlers have on in the winter. He did pee on the legwarmers a time or two, at first. It's getting easy to tell when he has to go, though....he sits up very straight and gets a faraway, concentrated look. Also his peeing seems to be on a schedule within 5 minutes of waking and within 20 minutes of eating.

Lynns and neandergirl here reminded me that it's not really pottytraining...elimination communication is more like training the parent to recognize the signals.

We don't expect him to be 100% out of diapers for some time, but since it's notoriously harder to get a boy to use the potty correctly we want as much experience as possible for him!

For the record, he is finding that watching himself peeing is HILARIOUS. And now that he's diaperless for a large chunk of the day, he has, uh, found a new toy to play with... we're hoping he'll get his fill of that during babyhood so he won't be "that" toddler--on a new expedition with his hand constantly down his waistband Smile
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I distinctly remember a potty training incident from my childhood.

I had to go #2 so I went to the bathroom. I didn't know you had to put the toilet seat down. I sat on the bare porcelain and slid backwards into the toilet bowl. My tush got soaked. I remember crying.

After that, I learned there was a reason for a toilet seat.
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eight months is pretty early, but I guess it's worth a try. When he's waking up dry in the morning is the normal time to start. Then send him straight to the bathroom. Before bath time too. Something about those little tootsies hitting the warm water always sent a stream flowing.

Put him on the toilet seat backwards, facing the tank so he can hold on. Put a step stool there so he can climb up if you're not using a potty chair. Turning on the tap water in the sink always makes them go too.
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