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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:55 pm    Post subject: MODS please Sticky: How to find an apartment in Seoul |   |  
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				| Go to http://cafe.naver.com/kig 
 It is a Naver Cafe.  That is where most Koreans go to post rooms available for rent.  Koreans don't like to pay Budongsan fees, and posting on Peterpan allows them to find someone to rent their rooms, bypassing the Budongsan.
 
 You need someone who can read Korean to help you navigate the site.
 
 Scroll down to "서울직거래*원룸전용"
 Expand that link and click on the area that you want to live.  There you will find all the one rooms available for rent.
 
 Below that category is "서울직거래*방 2,3개).  There are 2,3 bedroom apartments listed there.  As you read through those, you can find some apartments with no key money.  Maybe they will be written like 90/90 or 100/110, 80/85.  The first number is the deposit, the 2nd is the rent.
 
 So, 90/90 is 900,000w deposit and 900,000w rent per month.
 
 1000/60 is 10,000,000 won deposit and 600,000w rent.
 
 I found my apartment through this site.  These are normal renters that post here, so I don't recommend you call them up expecting them to speak English.  Get a Korean to help.
 
 People on Peterpan forum usually post room expecting to move out ASAP.
 
 You would begin your search here starting a month before you move.  Any earlier than that, most people will tell you "sorry, thats too long to wait."
 
 I found my place 1 week before I moved in.  The person that posted it moved out within 4 days after putting their room up on the site.  Keep that in mind.  Those rooms are not going to last very long.
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		| eamo 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:06 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Good info. |  |  
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		| samd 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:09 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Yeah good stuff pkang. Are you still in the Gangnam area? |  |  
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		| Haydn 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:46 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Whenever I try to view one of the listings I get a pop-up with a user name and password box. |  |  
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		| pkang0202 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:24 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | Haydn wrote: |  
	  | Whenever I try to view one of the listings I get a pop-up with a user name and password box. |  
 You have to register with Naver.  They do allow foreigner registration.
 
 In order to post on the Cafe, you need to "join" the cafe.  However, you do not need to join the Cafe to view the listings.  Most of the listings has a phone number to call.
 
 Once again, be sure your Korean is up to snuff, or have a Korean to help you.  Some of the people specify whether they prefer text messages, phone calls, and the hours they want to get calls.  Most of the people are normal Koreans.
 
 Also, be sure to read the listings carefully.  They tell you what is included in the apartment, what is nearby, and how close a bus/subway station is.  What they probably won't tell you is stuff wrong with the apartment.  Also, some places are negotiable.  It might say 1000/80 in the title, but in the post they might mention the landlord willing to raise/lower the rent depending on the deposit you put down.
 
 Usually, you ask them if you can come see the place, and you go look at it.  Chances are, all their crap is still in there.  Be sure to ask a lot of questions like how loud are the neighbors, the typical cost of utility bills, and how good the landlord is about getting stuff fixed.  If the room has no "options" then ask the person if they are willing to sell you their washer/AC/gas range/etc...
 
 Even though you don't pay any real estate fees, you both will probably still have to go to a Budongsan to get the lease transferred to your name.
 
 
 That Cafe is NOT like craigslist.  The is an owner of the cafe, and he will ban your account if people complain about you.  So, please be kind.
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		| pkang0202 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:26 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | samd wrote: |  
	  | Yeah good stuff pkang. Are you still in the Gangnam area? |  
 Technically I'm in Seocho-gu but yeah, basically Gangnam.  takes 3 bus stops to get to Kyobo Tower.
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