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Tud Ferguson



Joined: 03 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:50 am    Post subject: Pay on the decrease? Reply with quote

I've noticed it a bit, but today a recruiter said that these days the pay was going down, I told her to shove her job up her arse. The school fees aren't goin down, nor are the fees the recruiters charge, but they think they can offer us less money and we'll take it. Well I'm not cuttin my own throat. I would advise others not to aswell. You're only screwin urself.
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asylum seeker



Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Location: On your computer screen.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You tell 'em!
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing wow.

Pay may go down due to the simple fact that there is a mass influx of applicants due to the bad economy in the US. Under such conditions my good man...some people feel they have NO CHOICE but accept the job and some are even in a place where the lower pay is still eons better than their other option: no job at all back home...

But still don't 'slash your own throat'.... Laughing

Oh and school fees have nothing to do with your pay unless you invest money in the school and then become an investor. As an employee, what the school charges is completely irelevant to your earnings.

Still, some schools I know include a bonus clause in their contracts. At such schools certain teachers get income bonuses if the school does well.


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dirving



Joined: 19 Nov 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tud and Patrique be right.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they offer free housing, I'll accept 1.2 mil/month job. Razz
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ramen wrote:
If they offer free housing, I'll accept 1.2 mil/month job. Razz


I'll sing that song for 1.1 mil / month Razz
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you gotta be kidding
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rooster_2006



Joined: 14 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, it must be incredibly depressing if you guys are willing to accept 1.1 or 1.2 per month. When I left Korea last year, 2.3 or 2.4 was the standard for a hagwon. WHAT HAPPENED?!
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withnail



Joined: 13 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Complete the following proverb:

Beggars can't be ____________!

I know. Sucks, doesn't it?
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
you gotta be kidding


No I'm serial.

0.9 mil / month and that's my final offer.
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Welsh Canadian



Joined: 03 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Korean's really want their English or Education to improve (Never going to happen because it makes too much logical sense) they need to:

Pay teachers for their experience/qualifications and not their time or appearence.

When I look at all the jobs advertised the high paying ones you have to work from Monday to Saturday.

If they were to do make teachers in Canada work more the education would go down the drain. We'd be too tired.
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dosed_neurons



Joined: 23 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
VanIslander wrote:
you gotta be kidding


No I'm serial.

0.9 mil / month and that's my final offer.


are you...SUPERserial?
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:

Oh and school fees have nothing to do with your pay unless you invest money in the school and then become an investor. As an employee, what the school charges is completely irelevant to your earnings.


I had no idea Wal-Mart's top managers posted on Dave's ESL Cafe. Tell me more about how to cut benefits and put the squeeze on my employees so I can be rich too!
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miljeong



Joined: 07 Mar 2010
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lowest pay I ever accepted was 1.5 for morning only.

A while back when I was desperate for a job, I asked a dear friend of mine who was a hagwon owner who was also desperate for a teacher. M-F 9am~6pm, 1.7mil she said. "HA-HA" I said.

Listen to the other people when they say there is no need to accept less. To all the newbies, if you haven't built a network yet though and you're desperate to start, 2.0mil should be a good starting point. I can't imagine needing to accept less unless you're starting in Jeju-do.
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rooster_2006



Joined: 14 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
VanIslander wrote:
you gotta be kidding


No I'm serial.

0.9 mil / month and that's my final offer.

0.9 million won + 400,000 won housing allowance = 1,300,000 won a month total salary

A Korean high school graduate working at the Face Shop or a low-rung office position makes this much. I know because I dated one. She was 18.5 years old and was raking in roughly 1.3 million a month.

Any English teacher who accepts E-2 sponsoring work for 0.9 million + housing is INSANE. Unless said teacher has something serious going against him/her like being a non-native speaker from the Philippines or India, or being 70 years old, or something like that, 0.9 million (or even anything below 1.5 million) is RIDICULOUS. Don't even consider it.
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