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SeoulESLteacher09



Joined: 29 Mar 2009
Location: South Carolina

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:31 pm    Post subject: Filing taxes in America... Reply with quote

I know you have to do the foreign income exclusion, but what exchange rate do you use? I know how much I made in Korean won, but I don't know what exchange rate to use.

does anyone know?
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themagicbean



Joined: 04 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.fms.treas.gov/intn.html#rates

Doubt they could complain with their figure. I'm not sure if it's just the Dec 31 close or the yearly average, I believe it's the former but the latter is availalble somewhere. In any case unless you're over about 90k US it doesn't much matter.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

Note: Enter on lines 19 through 23 all income, including noncash income, you earned and actually or constructively received during
your 2009 tax year for services you performed in a foreign country. If any of the foreign earned income received this tax year was
earned in a prior tax year, or will be earned in a later tax year (such as a bonus), see the instructions. Do not include income from line
14, column (d), or line 18, column (f). Report amounts in U.S. dollars, using the exchange rates in effect when you actually or
constructively received the income.


Source: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f2555.pdf

Don't trust anyone on the internet for tax advice. Do your own research. People pull things out of their arse and you are left holding shite....
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SeoulESLteacher09



Joined: 29 Mar 2009
Location: South Carolina

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was hoping there would be some honest kind person who has experience with this who would be willing to give advice...people who have been in korea and have filled out taxes in America should know....Are there any honest people left in this world?

I'm just going to use the yearly average for 2009 for the exchange rate but I do have a question......

i was in south korea for all of 2009....do I still need to fill out a 1040? I don't know what to put on it. I didn't make any money in the US..

I'm going to fill out the 2555ez
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read the above post again, I answered your question with a reference.

Quote:

Report amounts in U.S. dollars, using the exchange rates in effect when you actually or constructively received the income.


You need to file a 1040 as well as a 2555.

My other advice is unchanged.
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SeoulESLteacher09



Joined: 29 Mar 2009
Location: South Carolina

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry if I sound like a real dumba**, but I don't know how to fill out the 1040 when I didn't earn anything in the US.......do I just put zeros everywhere? What line do I report my foreign income on?

There are a lot of people on this board....surely someone knows the answers.....I still have faith that there are decent people in this world who want to help the confused people like me.

I saw your reference which stated: Report amounts in U.S. dollars, using the exchange rates in effect when you actually or constructively received the income.

The exchange rate changed everyday......so someone told me to use the yearly average...if its wrong then they can just hunt me down--their instructions are too vague.......their statement tells me nothing...

or does it mean that I need to find the exchange rate for each month? If I got paid on the 10th of every month, then I need the exchange rate for the 10th of every month. Thats a whole lot of work.
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Lolimahro



Joined: 19 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are supposed to put all income you earned on the 1040 - overseas or otherwise. There is a line later down for writing in the amount you made overseas (the amount you have on your 2555) that will be subtracted to figure your taxable income.
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themagicbean



Joined: 04 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The instructions for 1040 and 2555 tell you what to put on what line. Your US income goes in the income line. Then you put, I think on the last "above the line" (before AGI) deduction line, all of your foreign earned income.

Not to be rude but RTM.
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brandonlk



Joined: 30 Sep 2009
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to fill out both the 1040 and the 2555. Fill out the 1040 just like you would if you were in the US. If you have any questions just message me and I will ask my friend who has worked for the IRS for the past 7 years.
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revspook



Joined: 15 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the real question is "how do I avoid paying taxes in the U.S. on my income here?"

Just to be clear, the expression tax avoidance refers to legally not paying taxes on income, while illegally dodging taxes is typically referred to as tax evasion.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Op - there is an H&R Block in Seoul -

I had a cpa do my taxes every year I was in K - you stil have to file, no matter what, but you should know the fact you are overseas automatically gives you an extension so it's not due until June 15, not April 15, ok?

pay a few bucks and get it done right, it's worth the peace of mind
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revspook



Joined: 15 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moosehead wrote:
Hey Op - there is an H&R Block in Seoul -

I had a cpa do my taxes every year I was in K - you stil have to file, no matter what, but you should know the fact you are overseas automatically gives you an extension so it's not due until June 15, not April 15, ok?

pay a few bucks and get it done right, it's worth the peace of mind


H&R Block has a bad reputation for screwing taxes up in the US. Not sure what kind of peace of mind that would offer here.
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bobtheduck



Joined: 09 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you always have to file 1040. Thing is, according to the rules about exclusions, I can't file for the other one because I haven't been out of the US for 10 months straight. I don't get the exclusions, in other words.

When it does come time for the exclusions, how are you supposed to prove how much you made to the IRS?
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uklathemock



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:34 am    Post subject: Re: Filing taxes in America... Reply with quote

SeoulESLteacher09 wrote:
I know you have to do the foreign income exclusion, but what exchange rate do you use? I know how much I made in Korean won, but I don't know what exchange rate to use.

does anyone know?


1. Call the IRS to get a tax payer ID.

2. Use taxact.com's free file service

3. Go through the simple q&a and select "e-file"

4. Save a copy in pdf format just in case the IRS audits you.

5. Sit patiently and wait for Taco Bell in Itaewon to open.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

revspook wrote:
moosehead wrote:
Hey Op - there is an H&R Block in Seoul -

I had a cpa do my taxes every year I was in K - you stil have to file, no matter what, but you should know the fact you are overseas automatically gives you an extension so it's not due until June 15, not April 15, ok?

pay a few bucks and get it done right, it's worth the peace of mind


H&R Block has a bad reputation for screwing taxes up in the US. Not sure what kind of peace of mind that would offer here.



H&R Block is a huge company - and if someone prepares your taxes, they are required to sign your return - making them responsible for mistakes (not bad information - your fault if you don't provide the correct info).

I would be willing to bet any "bad reputation" earned was through the fault of the taxpayer, not H&R as I have often used them for forms and simple qs.

again, because of other reasons and the fact I had a cpa already, that's who filed my taxes.

if you don't know how to do it yourself, are unsure or otherwise have qs, it's better to have it done than to just ignore it and go down a very treacherous path of not filing - which too many expats tend to do - out of sight, out of mind. then they find themselves actually not wanting to return stateside simply because of this - or worse - it will meet them head on when they do return.

it doesn't matter who files for you or you do it yourself - just DO IT. it's part of living, you know? death and taxes and all that...
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