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The Happy Warrior



Joined: 10 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:25 pm    Post subject: Germany's Euro Reply with quote

I don't usually post Stratfor articles here.

Germany profits most from the Euro

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If the euro is essentially gutting the European � and again to a greater extent the Club Med (Greece, Italy, Spain, etc) � economic base, then Germany is achieving by stealth what it failed to achieve in the past thousand years of intra-European struggles. In essence, European states are borrowing money (mostly from Germany) in order to purchase imported goods (mostly from Germany) because their own workers cannot compete on price (mostly because of Germany). This is not limited to states actually within the eurozone, but also includes any state affiliated with the zone; the relative labor costs for most of the Central European states that have not even joined the euro yet have risen by even more during this same period.
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strafor is alright. I read George Friedman's book a while back. He reckons Aztlan will separate from the US this century. Let's see.

Anyways, it's hard to say if Germany benefits most. The Euro was, in part, designed to tame the Germans. They have been low performing for the past decade, compared to other states. Though, they did not participate in the global credit orgy and actually deleveraged during the past decade (slightly). I don't know what benefit the welfare queens of Italy, Greece, Italy, Italy and Italy bring Germany.

I do not buy the idea that a cheap currency is absolutely good for exports. It is good for current exports, but it makes future exports more expensive. This is why Brazil or Zimbabwe didn't become global industrial powerhouses. I read macro analysis that suggests (almost homogeneously) that a devalued Italian currency would save their economy. Rubbish, I say.

The Germans have economically dominated Europe for a long, long time. They were destroyed during WW2. Do not believe the BS about America rebuilding them either. The goal was to keep a generation on breadlines to punish them. Even the East had comparable standards of living to southern Italy. When has Greece every been able to complete with Germany (in the last thousand years)?

This is all so complicated. I am more and more looking at cultural factors. Macro economics is such a weak framework.
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Reggie



Joined: 21 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was a German, I would be pissed about being in the EU.
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jhuntingtonus



Joined: 09 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know... The Germans had such a strong currency, and now they're diluted by those other countries. Intentions and geopolitical stuff aside, they've had the largest economy in Europe for a long time. That's reason enough...
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