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teacherk



Joined: 19 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:33 pm    Post subject: Threats from Hagwon Boss-Please advise Reply with quote

I have been in Korea and at my Hagwon for three and a half months. Two days after arriving, I was moved into a very small, but brand new apartment. I am generally a healthy person, but have constantly been sick since I have been here. I sent my boss pictures of the mold in my apartment weeks ago which he ignored and then told me I was too sensitive. This past week, I have been throwing up every day. I pulled back all of my furniture to find that the mold problem is far worse than I thought. I brought new and worse pictures into my boss on Monday, but he is dragging his feet and will not put me in a hotel in the meantime. He said that his priority right now is the students that are leaving and does not want me to keep bothering him with this. I said that I am worried that I will have to call in sick because I am throwing up everyday which will not help with student retention. He said that if I call in sick he will fire me. I have been trying to do some research as to what my rights are. My US standards, this would be a lawsuit, but I know that things don�t really work that way in Korea. If he does fire me (before six months) will they take out the cost of my plane ticket here? Any advice would be helpful; I am really at my wits end here.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Threats from Hagwon Boss-Please advise Reply with quote

teacherk wrote:
I have been in Korea and at my Hagwon for three and a half months. Two days after arriving, I was moved into a very small, but brand new apartment. I am generally a healthy person, but have constantly been sick since I have been here. I sent my boss pictures of the mold in my apartment weeks ago which he ignored and then told me I was too sensitive. This past week, I have been throwing up every day. I pulled back all of my furniture to find that the mold problem is far worse than I thought. I brought new and worse pictures into my boss on Monday, but he is dragging his feet and will not put me in a hotel in the meantime. He said that his priority right now is the students that are leaving and does not want me to keep bothering him with this. I said that I am worried that I will have to call in sick because I am throwing up everyday which will not help with student retention. He said that if I call in sick he will fire me. I have been trying to do some research as to what my rights are. My US standards, this would be a lawsuit, but I know that things don�t really work that way in Korea. If he does fire me (before six months) will they take out the cost of my plane ticket here? Any advice would be helpful; I am really at my wits end here.


Buy a really strong cleaning agent and douse the walls with it (while airing out the place)?
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Banana_Man



Joined: 01 Mar 2010
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, you have my sympathy - that's a horrible situation to be in.

As for solving the problem, sometimes when the boss just doesn't want to help, he won't. I advise to get out of the apartment as it is making you sick. Move into a friends or motel (not ideal I know but, you want to get well first so you can fight the director) and get well.

Then, contact the recruiters and see if they will help (in my experience this is unlikely).

Tell your boss that you will leave if he doesn't fix the problem, you can say that you will blacklist the school but, that could cause many more problems. If you take days off then he may realise and do something about it.

Regardless you MUST get him to move your apartment - if he says he will just fix the problem, DO NOT believe it as he will most likely just cover it up and you'll be sick again.

My advice is not great I know and others will have much better to give. Just take it easy - get out of the apartment and try to piece together an argument against the director. There are people you can call for legal advice, I do not know the numbers offhand though. Stay positive!
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a site on how to do it yourself (for the time being, it's your safest bet).

http://www.ehow.com/about_5063780_home-clean-mold-off-walls.html

Feel better!
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The Gipkik



Joined: 30 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Document everything your boss says. Everything. Heck, carry a small recorder in your pocket and record his voice too, if he is such a sly and slippery one. Google home remedies for room mold. There are plenty. I had the same problem, but in a tropical country. You should be able to take care of the mold yourself, but you might need a dehumidifier or a good fan. If you do call in sick, get a doctor's note to cover yourself and as proof in case you need to go to the labor board.
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Not Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quit asap. Your health takes precedence.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take the advice on this board with a grain of salt.

1st - the apartment, and mold, are YOUR responsibility. It is YOUR apartment. Your bad housekeeping is NOT your bosses responsibility.

You are a big boy now. Your mother is not here. Clean it up. Use bleach to kill the mold and air your place out. The mold (mildew) is caused by too much humidity. Open your bathroom window (and leave it open) so the moisture (from laundry, showers and cooking) can escape your apartment. Your mold problem should go away.

2nd - if you quit (or get yourself fired) before 6 months the labor board will NOT help you. The airfare is a contractual matter and it is a safe bet that you will be responsible for it.

3rd - if you leave before the 6 month mark it is a safe bet that you will NOT be able to transfer your visa to another employer for any number of reasons including but not limited to: immigration policy and a lack of a LOR from your unhappy boss.

Good luck to you.

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bobranger



Joined: 10 Jun 2008
Location: masan

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should go to the labor board. Then go on strike and get a lawyer to sue him for every won he has. Take pictures as well as samples to sent to a lab (CSI Style). Document everything. Maybe call your embassy and(local,national,internationa) media.

Maybe you should just clean the mold.
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Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find a new job.
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DrugstoreCowgirl



Joined: 08 May 2009
Location: Daegu-where the streets have no name

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Take the advice on this board with a grain of salt.

1st - the apartment, and mold, are YOUR responsibility. It is YOUR apartment. Your bad housekeeping is NOT your bosses responsibility.

You are a big boy now. Your mother is not here. Clean it up. Use bleach to kill the mold and air your place out. The mold (mildew) is caused by too much humidity. Open your bathroom window (and leave it open) so the moisture (from laundry, showers and cooking) can escape your apartment. Your mold problem should go away.



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The mold is not necessarily their fault. I had mold growing about a month after I got here and I kept the a/c on all the time. It got worse in the winter months and I was sick constantly. I scrubbed the walls down with bleach at least once a week but it grew back in a few days. I finally got the wallpaper replaced (I had to pay half of the cost) and when they pulled the paper off the wall behind was full of mold and there was water running down the corner of the wall. Definitely not anything I could have done about that!
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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
1st - the apartment, and mold, are YOUR responsibility. It is YOUR apartment. Your bad housekeeping is NOT your bosses responsibility.


Often times mold is not the fault of the new tenant or even the old tenant.

The mold could be endemic of the apartment itself and not "bad housekeeping".
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perelandra



Joined: 15 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd say that mold behind the furniture is a pretty serious amount of mold -- the usual stuff in the bathroom can be "managed" by mold prevention and treatment, but there is a possibility that the mold in the apartment is not the op's fault -- the place could just be poorly designed -- could even have some weird hidden leak that's promoting the mold (bad pipes, maybe water dripping down from somewhere, etc.)

throwing up every day is pretty darn bad for you - if i were you, i'd get out asap, then try to figure out how to deal with the issue and your boss. i don't have specific ideas in mind, but maybe talking to a doctor and bringing the note in to your boss might help? getting some sort of "look, this guy is not kidding and he'll definitely not be able to teach if this keeps up" justification from an outside source might help.

if the mold is simply an issue of you not ventilating properly (but in cold weather like this, i'd doubt that's it?) -- consider trying some of the tips offered. maybe you can get things cleaned up on your own - it's hard to say.
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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrugstoreCowgirl wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
Take the advice on this board with a grain of salt.

1st - the apartment, and mold, are YOUR responsibility. It is YOUR apartment. Your bad housekeeping is NOT your bosses responsibility.

You are a big boy now. Your mother is not here. Clean it up. Use bleach to kill the mold and air your place out. The mold (mildew) is caused by too much humidity. Open your bathroom window (and leave it open) so the moisture (from laundry, showers and cooking) can escape your apartment. Your mold problem should go away.



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The mold is not necessarily their fault. I had mold growing about a month after I got here and I kept the a/c on all the time. It got worse in the winter months and I was sick constantly. I scrubbed the walls down with bleach at least once a week but it grew back in a few days. I finally got the wallpaper replaced (I had to pay half of the cost) and when they pulled the paper off the wall behind was full of mold and there was water running down the corner of the wall. Definitely not anything I could have done about that!



Eugggh God....my worst nightmare!

I have been sick for a while and I didn't know why. Finally, I decided to do some Spring cleaning and when I moved my bookcase, I found mold! I don't know why/how it's in this one spot (not anywhere else behind furniture or by the AC) and they agreed to replace everything for free...which makes me think this has been a regular problem where I live.
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DrugstoreCowgirl



Joined: 08 May 2009
Location: Daegu-where the streets have no name

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kabrams wrote:
DrugstoreCowgirl wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
Take the advice on this board with a grain of salt.

1st - the apartment, and mold, are YOUR responsibility. It is YOUR apartment. Your bad housekeeping is NOT your bosses responsibility.

You are a big boy now. Your mother is not here. Clean it up. Use bleach to kill the mold and air your place out. The mold (mildew) is caused by too much humidity. Open your bathroom window (and leave it open) so the moisture (from laundry, showers and cooking) can escape your apartment. Your mold problem should go away.



.


The mold is not necessarily their fault. I had mold growing about a month after I got here and I kept the a/c on all the time. It got worse in the winter months and I was sick constantly. I scrubbed the walls down with bleach at least once a week but it grew back in a few days. I finally got the wallpaper replaced (I had to pay half of the cost) and when they pulled the paper off the wall behind was full of mold and there was water running down the corner of the wall. Definitely not anything I could have done about that!



Eugggh God....my worst nightmare!

I have been sick for a while and I didn't know why. Finally, I decided to do some Spring cleaning and when I moved my bookcase, I found mold! I don't know why/how it's in this one spot (not anywhere else behind furniture or by the AC) and they agreed to replace everything for free...which makes me think this has been a regular problem where I live.


That's nice they replaced it for free. The landlord said that it was my fault because the person before me didn't have mold so I must have caused it. And then they said I probably had mold because my unit has no insulation. Yeah, totally my fault! I feel bad for the next FT that has to live in this apartment!
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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.epa.gov/mold/index.html

Here's a website from the EPA (US) that might help you with clean-up and prevention! I'm definitely going to be using some of the tips in the future!
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